Is it too early to compare Lomachenko to all time greats?

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  1. mcvey

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    I don't need to I have the Ring Record book and the IBHO book on my PC desk .
     
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    Cool.
    Why did you ask me who Lomachenko has beat ?
     
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  3. mcvey

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    "People forget it now but many were saying Pacquiao was insane to think he could beat old Oscar De La Hoya at 147.
    Pacquiao was a clear underdog, just too small they said." Bad comparison.
     
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  4. Unforgiven

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    I was just comparing size.
    Not sure what resume has to do with that.
     
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  5. Brixton Bomber

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    Are you for real? Rigo was better than most Bar Floyd on that list!
     
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    Roman Martinez, ranked 6
    Jason Sosa, ranked 7
    Guillermo Rigondeaux, ranked 1
    Jorge Linares, ranked 2
    Jose Pedraza, ranked 3
    Anthony Crolla, ranked 7

    This is actually pretty good, especially with what he has left and his stated plans. It's probably not a million miles away from being enough keystone wins to base a borderline ATG career on already. On the other hand, it's probably not as good as some of the guys who have been mentioned in here.

    But he's a long way to go. I'd describe this as an absolutely excellent start.

    This is TBRB. If someone wants to do something similar with Ring or Fightnews, that'd be really interesting.
     
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  7. Wass1985

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    Who should he have beat?
     
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  8. Richmondpete

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    LMAO. How? How is dragging up a 40 year old who has accomplished essentially nothing as a pro 2 weight classes better than any of those wins?
     
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  9. PhillyPhan69

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    Thanks for reminding me lol! I was one of that group. Odd that it is a lot smaller of a group now than it was then. Many thought he would lose to DLH...they have since disappeared or changed their story. But yes I thought Oscar would destroy him even at that stage and stop him in 6 lol. Oh well
     
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    I agree, and since I am a big Linares appreciator I think it is a high quality win.
     
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  11. Bukkake

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    So was I!

    Just 9 months earlier Pac was a 130 pounder... and now they were going to throw him in with the much bigger DLH at welter! Man, how can they do that - surely the little Filipino will have no chance (I thought).

    It was the first time it dawned on me, that Pac was something REALLY special.
     
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    It indicates Manny's resume was already top notch so it shouldn't have been that much of a surprise.
    Ill bet you £50 if Loma goes up to face Crawford he gets his arse kicked.
     
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    Pretty good yes, great no. Excellent start yes ,career defining no. Rigo was gone,Crolla didnt belong in there. The Linares win was very good ,his most impressive so far.Pedraza was a decent win but not earth shattering.
     
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  14. Unforgiven

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    I don't have an opinion on Lomachenko's chances against the top current 140 or 147 pounders but I know he's already widely regarded as "the pound for pound best" fighter at the moment, and many have said he doesn't really have much (or any) serious competition left at 135.
    So it's not an insane idea for him to at least be contemplating a move up.
    We shall see.
     
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  15. Wass1985

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    Oh ok so Loma going up to face Crawford is the same as Pacman going up to face a weight drained, war torn past it fighter like Oscar?
     
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