Is it too early to compare Lomachenko to all time greats?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why don't you get someone to explain posts to you Im getting tired of having to interpret for you.
     
  2. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't need them explaining thanks but if Lomachenko moved up to beat Crawford that would trump any Pacman win by a country mile! Manny defeating Oscar wasn't all that great when you look at the details of the bout.
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It would, but I've got £50 that's says he doesn't do it.Want to play?
     
  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think he will go that high but if he does I'll have that bet with you and I'll go with Loma......

    Is he allowed to drink Manny's shakes?
     
  5. JohnThomas1

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    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It never hurts to be cautious, but we can see which way the wind is blowing!
     
  7. Alexandrow Vids

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    Lomachenko will go Down as a Great Fighter but never as a All Time Great.

    His Pro career was too short and he never beat THAT Great Fighter who really stood out.

    Show me one Name in his career who has the potential to be a ATG?
    Answer is nobody except for Lopez in 15+ years maybe.
     
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  8. Bokaj

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    A lot of course depends on if he can gain revenge on Lopez and what Lopez goes on to do.
     
  9. asero

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    Maravilla, Cotto, GGG, Chocolatito and Donaire are all ranked higher than him
     
  10. TBooze

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    It is always much harder to rate current fighters. Hindsight makes things a little easier.

    I put him at #90 in my top 100 of the Queensberry rules era last year, it will be interesting if he can turn this round. I admit I am a sucker for a good redemption story.
     
  11. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A number of fighters in history had very good runs, Kid lavenge comes to mind, but their careers don't come out to all time greats. 10-2 isn't getting you very far.
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    If he retires, here's his meaingful scalps with ranking by TBRB:

    Roman Martinez (6)
    Jason Sosa (7)
    Gil Rigondeaux (Ch. - at 122lbs, fights Loma at 130lbs)
    Jorge Linares (2)
    Jose Pedraza (3)
    Anthony Crolla (2)
    Luke Campbell (7)

    Note that Russel wasn't ranked but was very good and ranked shortly thereafter.

    So it's not too bad, and if you chuck in Walters and Russel, which is reasonable, it's a fine number, really good. Biggest risks appear to be Linars, Pedraza, Salido and Lopez so that's 2-2 nut not abnormal. No number ones or champions (in their own divisions thought) which is troubling - just strapholders. I'd say impressive but certainly not overwhelming.
     
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  13. Colonel Sanders

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    Lomachenko has hit a wall last night. Lopez isn't interested in a rematch. If he moves up, Loma could end up fighting for a bunch of vacated titles. That's not too exciting. At 140, the guys are just even bigger, and Loma seems to have made it clear he was not willing to go past 135. At 130, been there, done that. I really wonder where he's headed.
     
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  14. roughdiamond

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    Should try and get Berchelt.
     
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  15. McGrain

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    Not sure that would be a great idea...
     
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