Is it too early to compare Lomachenko to all time greats?

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  1. Colonel Sanders

    Colonel Sanders NSB defector Full Member

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    Unless he's gotten significantly better since he faced Roman, Berchelt is not a very refined fighter, Loma schools him.
     
  2. roughdiamond

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    It is a fight that should have happened at 130 but didn't. There is still good time for this bout to happen at 130 without it being over-aged.
     
  3. Colonel Sanders

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    So you think Loma should drop back down ? To become undisputed or just to finish his career with a few more good names ?
     
  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think he'll have a hard time getting a meaningful fight. He'll be viewed as high risk low reward now. He should get out of his head that he has to stay at 135, though. There's nothing for him there if Lopez doesn't give him a rematch.

    A fight with Mikey is what I wanted for him for years, but don't think Mikey would be very interested. Absolutely not at 135.
     
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  5. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Bronsonville Full Member

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    I personally think 130 is his best weight, and at 135 he has already beaten top names who are already aiming for title shots against Lopez - shots I personally think they would lose. 130 seems sort of unfinished for Loma, and Berchelt would be a good fight for him against a champ.

    As mentioned by Bokaj, Mikey is basically out of the question. Loma has some thinking to do on his career avenues.
     
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    Gary Russel, but he never fights.
     
  7. NoNeck

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    That will mostly depend on what Arum wants to do.
     
  8. reznick

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    Don’t play w me bro
     
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  9. Colonel Sanders

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    How much a single loss can be disruptive for a career after an otherwise impeccable run in this sport never ceases to amaze me.
     
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  10. reznick

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    The man who revolutionized boxing, and invented the matrix style, loses to a guy with a low guard.

    Back to the drawing board for the modernistas
     
  11. Bokaj

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    Yeah. It's quite hypocritical how fans whine on fighters for not taking on enough challenges and then completely lose interest in them when they do and fail.

    MMA fans seem to be much more forgiving. Losing a few fights isn't a big deal, you'll still get more chances if the drive is there. Gaetje was KO'd twice in a row, but still got to come back and prove his worth and now he's in a great match-up with the most dominant champion around today.
     
  12. ecto55

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    Aren't you glad you didn't take the free advice on the ESB board recently that some of the older posters were delusional and needed to seek care. Turns out it wasn't us who DKSAB.
     
  13. Bokaj

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    You've really become quite obsessed with this, haven't you? You went straight down into the rabbit hole when you didn't get agreement that film of Fitz and Corbett represents the best we have on film of boxing.
     
  14. ecto55

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    But it turns out the marketing people know the minds of boxing fans better than us boxing fans know our own minds (collectively speaking).

    Remember how Wilder went from being the hardest hitter in history to a bum within the span of one fight; or Andy Ruiz went from an unknown to a H2H behemoth to a fat bum within the span of two fights?

    Not to be a snob, but reading General is to peer into the mind of the collective lay boxing mind, and so its no surprise that an unblemished record is given such a high priority. Its marketing, its TV, its the Mabo, its the vibe.

    Mind you, its a very hard balance to strike between seasoning them and preserving a record, and keeping fans happy. I think a lot of the Loma-loss glee comes from fools ramming down people's throats that Loma was the bet ever (Joe Rogan) or represented the pinnacle of boxing's evolution (no joke- I'm paraphrasing an ESB poster here).

    When lumping that time after time there's bound to be a reflexive rebound effect. Can't blame Loma, it's his fans, and you can't really blame his fans, because like any boxing fans, unless they're old-ish like many of us are, they're falling victim to sophisticated marketing ploys.
     
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  15. reznick

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    U wot m8?
     
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