Is it too risky for Bradley to take the fight to Pac?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Diamond Eye, May 16, 2012.


  1. Diamond Eye

    Diamond Eye Guest

    I don't think this one is relevant.

    But in regards to Hatton...

    Hatton to me looked much bigger and stronger than Pacquaio, and had success mauling every other opponent he's fought in the past.

    He may not have done much work, (see Mayweather), but he could still get them in that position.

    Pacquaio is slippery, fast, and hard hitting, and stronger than he appears.

    While theoretically, Bradley could use (likely his superior size and strength) to maul Pacquaio, and like you said, neutralize one of his hands and back him up, I think it's a massive risk considering Pacquaio's fast feet, fast hands, and hard hitting punches.

    I think for Bradley to be successful with this approach, and while he's better defensively than Hatton, he'll have to take a lot of punishment.

    If I was coaching him, I would tell him to box and circle. Perhaps in the later rounds, I would try to convince him to bring the fight to Pacquaio, but it will be a very dangerous proposition.

    People don't fight with Pacquaion on the inside because they tend to get knocked out before they can spend enough time there to do any damage.

    But if anyone can do it, at least from an offensive perspective, Bradley is the guy to do it.
     
  2. Brownies

    Brownies Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Honestly, I'm considering putting some money on Bradley because the odds are good and unlike a guy like Margarito, Bradley's got the footspeed to keep heavy pressure on Pac all 12 rounds. However, I don't agree with you that Bradley can fight any way he wants. If he stays at mid range and try to beat Pacquiao to the punch with his right hook, he'll get tag by Pac's straight left. Look at the first round against Casamayor, he's open to it if he doesn't get inside (where he's got great defence).
     
  3. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    inside fighting is pretty much another language to emmanuel. now dirty fighting is foreign to him like contraceptives

    boxing is great. the defense specialists end up having the most offensive tools. Floyd, Bernard, Andre,etc are all great at being dirty and fighting on the inside
     
  4. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    To add to the discussion:

     
  5. Snakefist

    Snakefist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac cant really fight on the inside, he needs mid range. Bradley will try to smother pacs punches. I don't think he can fight like Marquez, marquez has such precision and accuracy with his punches. The way he throws punches look so effortlessly and with good technique. Bradley still doesn't really know how to put his body into punches the right way. I remember hearns having to show him how to do it with he did the mitts with him spontaneously when he was watching Bradley spar. But maybe he learned? That was 2 fights ago and he seemed to improve his body punching.

    Bradley can win on the inside, but honestly, it would be impossible for him to NOT get hit. It's very likely that Pac bust him up. But Bradley has a certain aura about him.... reminds me of a Hagler, a B-Hop, or other guys of this type... maybe a Ward... he is just a worker in their and has a super strong will. Yes Holt knocked him off his feet... BUT Holt has legit devastating 1 punch power.... the guy has a LOT of one punch KO's, his left hook is crazy, and his one punch speed is incredible... kind like a RJJ left hook, the ones you dont see. Bradley not only survived that KD which was a horrible one, but he wasnt even out on his feet. The guy has a will and he still went at Holt despite Holt knocking him up in the air LOL. This is the real intangible that Bradley has here, how much of this intangible he has, we will see against pac. But right now it appears that he is going to get his ass beat. But so did B-Hop, Ward, and Hagler at times. People count out the workers.... but they are often the ones that have the most success.
     
  6. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree its just LIke Marquez when they're hurt they dont back up allowing Pacquioa to punish them more their instinct was to throw back
     
  7. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Those quick lil arm punch flurries he throws in attempt to overwhelm the other guy with handspeed and make em move back away from the inside. It looks like he's shadowboxing except trying to hit a person not air.

    His sparring partner got the better of the exchange by landing that meaningful left hook, but then he backed off after that to prevent retaliation. emmanuel then sticks his flicker out to create distance and go back to a range he knows how to operate in.
     
  8. Snakefist

    Snakefist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hattons problem was that he didn't know how to get on the inside in the right way. This guy had no defense, even Joy Sr couldn't give him it. This guy ran in face first, really reckless, living himself wide open for Pac to counterpunch him like crazy. Hatton throw punches from too far out, if he was going to throw a punch from that distance it shoudve been a quick jab to get on the inside. Not to mention his Chin isn't the best after taking so many hits.
     
  9. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    I really don't think we should be focusing on Pac's ability to fight on the inside.

    It's how he cuts off the ring and finds the target, that I'm worried about.
     
  10. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    why Timmeh likes to swarm
     
  11. TMH

    TMH Active Member Full Member

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    :whistles He doesn't have to though. That was a punch Hatton was throwing, which always sacrifices defense for most fighters. Bradley (like Ward) angles in with good head movement to bully and set up for inside combinations.
     
  12. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Because, for the most part, I don't see the fight taking place there that much (at least in the early rounds, anyway).

    Pac isn't as hopeless at fighting on the inside like most are making out. If you try and take him there, he'll still find himself a bit of time/room to get a few punches in. It may be limited, but with his footwork, speed, power and angles, that's all he may need. I mean, it only took him 90 seconds to figure out how to do that against what many consider to be a decent inside fighter (2:25):

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmo9MmAV-2Q[/ame]


    I think Bradley will be very selective in when he decides to fight him on the inside. He knows the risks. I think he'll look to box him first to take his confidence away, and then take it to him. There's a reason why throughout the build-up he's had a smug look and been all "I want them to think I'm just a brawler".
     
  13. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Pac has the footwork and speed to make this fight at the distance he wants it for the most part.
     
  14. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes it is. Bradley doesn't have the power to force Pacquiao to the ropes and do serious damage to keep him there. If Bradley opens up he's getting knocked out.
     
  15. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is going to have to pick his spots to take it to Pac or keep a distance. He isn't going to win just looking to counter all night. There are times he is going to have to jump in the fire, but its all about doing it at the right time.