Is it true that in prizefighting, nobody is the same again after getting a beatdown?!

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  1. Dapidran

    Dapidran Pac4Pound Full Member

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    Then there goes your Miguel Cotto, Kelly Pavlik, and Oscar De La Hoya to their fans...
     
  2. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    No, it is most certainly not true. It depends on the makeup of the boxer.

    How they recover physically, which shouldn't be a huge problem for a youngish guy provided it was nothing horrific.

    More important, mentally.
     
  3. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Of course it isn't universally true. Each fighter is different.
     
  4. ky7le

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    I think some fighters are never the same after they are pummeled. I think Jeff Lacey is an example, but I don't think it happens to everyone that takes a beating. I definitely think it's a question Cotto needs to answer in his next fight. Pavlik on the other hand got beat not beatdown.
     
  5. Mookhound

    Mookhound Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No - Nigel Benn is a good example.
     
  6. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    each fight and fighter is differant.... so no.

    Gatti came back the same fighter after quite a few beatdowns (remember his one by Hoya?)

    But true i cant find too many exceptions like that
     
  7. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    Yes and No ... it depends, it some cases, you're not the same if you get beat down --

    In other cases you can bounce back from a devastating defeat.

    Marco Antonio Barerra bounced back from the defeat to Pacquiao but once he faced Pacquiao again ... he was reminded of that night when he recieved that beat down some time ago.
     
  8. Depends on the fighter, Lennox was KO'D twice and cameback, Holy was beatdown by Bowe and cameback, Hears was KO'D by Leonard and came back to have a great career, it all depends on the fighter, and his mental makeup.
     
  9. Mookhound

    Mookhound Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thinking about it, Corrales came back a better fight imo for the first couple of years after his dismantling by PBF.
     
  10. NJ1979

    NJ1979 Likes monkeys Full Member

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    Depends on the fighter. Losing obviously diminishes a fighter's aura, but there's no reason they can't learn and improve after a loss.
     
  11. ninebar

    ninebar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great Fighter's will come back, Average fighters will never be the same!
     
  12. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    Not against fighters on the championship level ...

    Frietas wasn't the same after his defeat from Corrales
    Hamed wasn't the same after his defeat from Barrera
    Barrera wasn't the same since his lost to Pacquiao
    DLH wasn't the same since he lost to Tito
    Tito wasn't the same since he lost to Hopkins
    Jones hasn't been the same since he lost to Tarver
    Vargas wasn't the same when he lost to Tito
    David Reid wasn't the same when he lost to Tito



    To be determined:
    Kelly Pavlik
    Ricky Hatton
    Juan Diaz
    Miguel Cotto



    The thing is ... once you get that taste of defeat, you get used to losing and you accept losing more naturally.
    You lose your feel of invinciabilty --
     
  13. EL-MATADOR

    EL-MATADOR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Depends on the fighter. Some fighters are mentally stronger than others and can come back better.
     
  14. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    depends on the fighter
     
  15. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    In most cases yes. But Wlad came back.