is it wrong to want to look good?

:good I'm as ugly and as straight as they come.

 

Relentless grandfather was a sailor.

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i prefer to work on my skills and win instead of looking good. looking good is no guarantee to win a fight. when you win,then you automatically look good

 

NEWS FLASH GUYS

Girls aren't into the big muscley guys.

Seems like all of the body building stuff and trying to be super skinny so you look ripped or whatever is just for guys. Girls actually find it unattractive. Someone who is healthy and naturally built even if they have a spare tire is far more attractive than someone who looks like they spend hours on their body. And believe me, you can tell the difference.

 

Never pulled a fit guy then?

 

Many girls tastes are different, i know more girls that like in shape guys then out of shape.

 

:roll:

 

Ask your female friends. Would they rather go out with some muscled up guy who looks like he spends hours in the gym or just some average guy who looks like he's in decent shape.
If I get the time today I'll post two different pictures of what I mean.
Anyway, pointless trying to argue with you guys on here you always seem to think you know know more of what women want than what women do. :roll:

 

I think you are correct Amy. at least thats what the women i know say

 

Finally, thank you!

 

in general the worse shape I am in the more compliments I get on my physique from girls, which is a shame.

But at 130ish pounds and 5'8'' there is nothing "too much" about me except maybe my calves. The difference is probably one of sub 5 percent body fat to one of maybe seven or eight, I would guess. It is a shame, really, that guys in worse shape get more credit than guys in great shape. But it seems like there is a fine line there. Some fat drunken slobs get chicks - others don't. I don't like the muscle bound look either, but a guy like Pac-man or Ndou would probably be too lean for your average girl to like compared to a higher fat physique . On the flip side bodybuilders would probably be too massive. A girl I know met pretty boy floyd in person and said he just looked like some skinny unathletic little guy - frame to her was more important than the actual athleticism of his physique.

That's OK, though.

 

I dont mean a 5'10" 140 kg bodybuilder, i meant a 5'10" 80 kg fit but muscular bloke. Not huge just muscular.