Is Jack Dempsey the most overrated fighter of all time

Yeah I totally didnt read any of your posts I commented on, quoted, and replied to either. LOL. My kid comes up with more original comebacks...

 

Dont worry Im sure theres someone out there for you.

 

My opinion of you is unchanged by anything you've said in your last post because I didn't read it.

 

Consider this, it's 100 years later and he is the most often rated fighter... There is a magic to the guy.

 

He reads everything. He’s a last word freak. That aside what’s missing is that Dempsey had everything to lose. He was being built up as a man killer and the top contender for a title fight not yet locked in. Being made to look foolish by Jeannette was a dumb risk.

 

Bingo.

 

Sure he was a risk. He was mentally prepared, had everything to gain and was always known as a supremely durable , tough fighter. Highly experienced. Dempsey had credibility to lose at a crucial time. It was a put on the spot stupid risk. Nothing to gain for Dempsey.

 

Interesting and potent post .. let's keep in mind a few things ... Dempsey was a small cruiserweight .. he had a Holyfield like body but really primed out at a touch under 190 so despite a few signature wins over large men of sorts I agree he like many should be rated in a below 200 pound category .. Beating an old Willard, Firpo and Fulrton the way he did showed heavyweight power but matching him up against the best of the much bigger men is to me and has always been absurd but that is the heavyweight division ... where do you cut these match ups off ? At 200 ? Where does that leave 200 pound Louis or the 204 pound Frazier ? That said , it is what it is .. Dempsey and possibly to a greater degree Marciano are often projected to a level they don't belong based on a myriad of obvious facts .. In my opinion, both were terrific fighters but to match them up with other great fighters thirty to sixty pound heavier is absurd. We have weight classes for a reason .. maybe an answer is to rate heavyweight champs P4P opposed to H2H .. I personally felt Dempsey was a physically gifted fighter , speed, power, chin, toughness, heart, killer instinct, stamina .. just one that had a short and undeveloped peak because his marketability impacted his management's decisions on his continuing to graduate as a fighter .. he became a commodity, fights were surgically selected and while huge dollars were made his potential as a fighter was never reached ..

 

Jess willard on the real goat ," I want to say that there isn't a man as far back as john l Sullivan who ever hit as hard as dempsey..... Besides being a wicked puncher he is a wonderful ring general , puzzling in his attack and defense, and remarkably clever. " 1919

 

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This thread shows why I don't like Heavyweight.