Is Jake Shields an HOF calibre fighter?

Yeah Shields should have stuck to his guns on going to middleweight - Silva is a better (not a good mind you) stylistic matchup for him than St. Pierre

 

I disagree, I believe Silva would have stopped him.

 

Then you don't disagree. I think Silva would have stopped him BUT Shields would have a clear route to victory i.e. takedown and control, outside chance of submission. Against GSP, Shields he never had a chance of winning due to St. Pierre's wrestling and striking advantage. As I quite clearly said Silva is not a good stylistic matchup for Shields, just a better one than GSP.

 

There's no evidence for this really. He screwed up his weight cut against Kampmann by cutting from too high a weight but seemed fine against GSP. He is a natural welterweight by UFC standards but lacks the wrestling to impose his game on the likes of Fitch or Koscheck, let alone GSP.

 

:nono

Anderson's JJ is among the best, I think Shields subbing GSP would be more likely, but not very in either case. What is likely is Shields getting KOd by Anderson

 

Sigh.

Firstly, I said he had an outside chance of submitting Silva. I too don't think he would that.

Secondly, exactly how could he submit GSP if he can't get the fight to the ground?

 

Ok there is not point in further discussing outside chances

 

So you admit you failed to understand my original point?

 

No I understand it well, you think that it is more likely that Shields could submit Silva than TD GSP in a 5 rnd fight, but both are unlikely

I think I phrased it better