Is Jimmy Bivins run 42-46 as good as Floyd's career?

Doesn't matter

 

I don’t follow. Day before weigh ins lend more of an advantage to the larger fighter.

 

Today the biggest jump in weight is from 175-190-lhw to cw. Back then every weight class was a big jump to the next weight class. You had to go up at least 6 or more pounds to fight in the next weight class. From Flyweight to Bantam was the shortest jump I believe back then.

 

My point is that if you do what Mayweather and Pacquiao did and jump to 147, while maxed out physically, you’ll enter the ring near 150 and your opponent can come in above 160. That is more commonplace today.

 

I'm not understanding the point you're trying to make and I'm not being funny. I've read what I wrote and I've read your responses. Can you clarify your point? Thanks.

 

Ok I think I get you. While day before weigh ins might help the bigger guy, that isn't a guarantee that it does. Back then if you went from Fly to Bantam that was 6lbs. Not bad, but still a jump. Bantam to Fw was 8 lbs, that's a jump. FW to LW 9 lbs but jump, Lw to ww 12 lbs big jump. WW to MW was 13 lbs big jump. MW to Lhw was 15 lbs wow! And back then over 175 and you could be fighting at Hw.

These guys stayed in shape all year round fighting like a month later or two months depending on the damage that they took. So for them to go upmin weight and beatnthe champ was extraordinary. Only the best have done that back then. Armstrong holding 3 belts simultaneously is legendary.

 

Example: You jump from 160 to 175 back then when Bob Foster was the champ. Foster would be entering the ring at about 180. You enter at 175 because you can’t gain any more.

You jump from 160 to 175 when Adonis Stevenson/Kovalev/Tarver/etc. is the champ. If you’re still entering the ring at 175, those guys would be coming in closer to 190.

If you dried out for lower weights, it’ll be more even. Pac and Mayweather both couldn’t gain much weight once they hit 147.

 

Ezzard Charles had that problem back then. He was a big 175 lb guy whose record at lhw was impressive. But, it was hard for him to make 175 and he could make more fighting hws. Today's fighters train to take off double digit lbs to make weight because they fight months later. So while they do rehydrate in double digits, that doesn't guarantee anything because they still had to struggle to make weight. Back then they stayed around their fighting weight because they fought more often.

 

One other thing is that more guys were fighting under the limit back then. Light heavies might come in weighing in the high 160s.

 

The guys who let themselves get out of shape get burned, same as back then. But a guy like Salido owes some of his biggest career successes to basically being a welter who makes 130.

 

A lot of lhws were also former MWs who didn't fill out at lhw but still fought there.

 

I see your point but he couldn't fight at WW which is why he came down to sfw. Against anyone with inside and outside skills he couldn't beat. He beat a inexperienced Loma and a big former super bantamweight in JuanMa. He couldn't beat Garcia or Gamboa.

 

That might be the most underwhelming way to put Ezzard's 175 run

 

Salido struggled to make FW for a while before he moved to sfw. The money was at FW.

 

Ok, is the word unbeatable better?