Is Jimmy McLarnin hugely underrated?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by D.T, Nov 12, 2010.


  1. D.T

    D.T Guest

    Looking at his resume is like looking at a wall on the boxing hall of fame.


    Look at the guys he beat:

    Tony Canzoneri
    Barney Ross
    Benny Leonard
    Pancho Villa
    Jackie Fields
    Young Corbett III
    Lou Ambers
    and more
     
  2. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    IMO he is last out of the trinity. Very much an atg though. He did what Pac did before Pac did it and beat better fighters while doing so.
     
  3. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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  4. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most in the Classic Forum consider him among the top 20 fighters of all time or thereabouts. He's ranked right about where he should be, slightly behind Ross and Canzoneri.

    His resume is indeed one of the greatest of all time, though, especially given the comparatively small number of fights he had. The names you mentioned are just scratching the surface.
     
  5. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not underrated so much as overlooked, due in large part to the combination of relatively youthful departure and long happy lifespan. (Jimmy enjoyed the longest retirement of any champion in boxing history.) There's probably been more of an urgency among fight aficionados and historians to memorialize those who have been gone for much longer (Canzi), were under appreciated until after their careers had ended (Ross), or had tragic and compelling fates. Like Canzi, McLarnin was one of boxing's most beloved champions while he was actually on top. (This contrasts with Dempsey, whose public acceptance following draft dodging charges was only rehabilitated after losing the title, with "Honey, I forgot to duck.") Jimmy was wealthy and happy in retirement, lived to be an active supporter of the IBHOF after his 1991 induction (one of the congratulatory ads in my father's 1998 Induction Weekend program is from McLarnin, Moore and wrestling star Count Billy Varga), and enjoyed excellent health until succumbing to Alzheimer's after reaching his 90s.

    As El Bujia just stated, he's commonly considered among the top 20 all time here, so it's hard to specify how underrated he could be with that status being taken for granted by so many.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, this.

    Not underated, not on this forum.
     
  7. Jorodz

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    bang on. he's gotta be a top 30 (though top 20 could certainly be made) and JUST behind ross and both behind canzoneri
     
  8. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, but a lot of it has to do with all the weight jumping imo. He fought ATGs at several weights. Where exactly was he at his best?? I don't know, but I think he probably was best at lightweight.
     
  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Surf-Bat, I think when he had fully matured and found his own he was at Welterweight.

    I think he is rated justly on here.
     
  10. janitor

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    Manny Pacquio should have taught us a thing or two about how good McLarrin was and what his weight jumping meant.

    This was a truly incredible fighter!
     
  11. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ross behind Canzoneri? I don't see the justification there. McLarnin is a close enough call as is, but I believe Ross proved himself the most consistent of the bunch.
     
  12. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Ross is a clear front runner IMO.
     
  13. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hm, I don“t think Canzi is above Ross despite him beeing one of my favourite fighters but I think you can make an argument based on the fact that he was the smallest of the three, could hold his own with both and fought bigger men more often.
     
  14. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Wasn't we having a discussion about McLarnin having a bit too mnany circumstances regarding his wins? Not suspicious, like, but there were a few legitimate excuses for some of his wins.
     
  15. bodhi

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    Yep.