Is Jimmy Wilde the greatest ever UK fighter?

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  1. Vinnie Jones

    Vinnie Jones Member Full Member

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    hahaha thers no way hatton should be above Froch, look at Froch's best wins compared to hatton, it's no contest. Hamed is too high he got beat easily as soon as he fought an elite fighter and retired like a *****. Fitzsimmons and Lennox Lewis were not british. Calzaghe's too low. I think you need a new day job, to not have Froch in the top 15 is disgraceful.
     
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  2. Vinnie Jones

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    Hattons best 6 wins - tsyzu, castillo, malignaggi, maussa, collazo, urango
    Froch's best 6 wins - kessler, bute, pascal, abraham, taylor, dirrell
    no contest Froch's are much better
    Hatton got knocked out twice, Froch has a granite chin.
    Froch has proved himself to be a greater fighter than Hatton that's for sure
     
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  3. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopefully your day job doesn't involve comprehension, as the words "in no particular order" seem lost on you :lol:

    Lewis was born and raised in Britain, and held British citizenship throughout his career. I'm not sure how he is "not British".

    Fitz is more complex. He was born in Britain, but became an American citizen by the time he beat Corbett for the HW title. There was no such thing as Australian or New Zealand citizenship at the time, so he was a British national for the first part of his career, including wins over Hall of Famers like Dempsey and Choynski.

    I don't really have a strong opinion on Hatton. I'd rank him higher than Froch on the basis that he has wins over a HOF fighter and p4p top 5 guy in Tszyu, and a probable HOF fighter in Castillo. Obviously both of these were past their prime though. Anyway, you can easily take Hatton out and replace him with Downes, Harvey, or maybe Mills or McAvoy. Conteh was a better fighter than Froch, but his resume is thin for a fighter of his ability.

    Hamed had a long unbeaten run at featherweight, effectively unified the division, and beat a host of titlists and top 10 fighters. Yes, he was spanked by Barrera, but no worse than Froch was against Ward. Hamed is probably top 20 in a traditional weight division. There is no way Froch would come close to the top 20 if he was (eg) a middleweight or light-heavy.
     
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  4. assasin

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    Wilde or Fitzsimmons. take your pick.
     
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  5. The Pummler

    The Pummler Guest

    Ouch
     
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  6. AliShuffle

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    Fitzsimmons and Lewis were both born in England.
     
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  7. Vinnie Jones

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    He's about as british as Greg Rusedski

    It's not even up for discussion about Froch and Hatton. Froch surpassed Hatton at the time of the Bute win, and now it isn't even up for debate.
    Froch has a better resume and better wins than both Hatton and Hamed.
    Hamed beat a load of bums, and the way he retired was not the way a great fighter retires.
    You're sad mate. Your clearly trolling, I should report your post, Your talking about Froch as if he's Witter/Maccirinelli/ Khan/Rees type level. You don't have a clue. Froch is one of very few british fighters, that you could never ever diss his resume. You clearly have some sort of racial or something hate towards him?? I'm not sure what it is but there's defo some hate there to make you have deluded biased views talking about Froch as if he's a bum. When he's the best british fighter of the last 5 years, 2nd best british fighter of the last 10 years, top 5 of the last 30 years, and top 10 EVER.
     
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  8. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think you're trying too hard :lol:
     
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  9. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Nope.

    Lennox Lewis, beat everyone he ever faced, and fought them anywhere. So good he could not bother training, let them win, and KTTFO in the rematch. Lmao.
     
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  10. rossco666

    rossco666 Guest

    :rofl ''No one in British boxing history has fought wold class fighters consecutively the way Froch has''!?! :patsch
    Im a big Froch defender but thats just pure bull****.
     
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  11. rossco666

    rossco666 Guest

    :deal this
     
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