Is Jimmy Wilde the hardest puncher p4p ever? UPDATED WITH JIMMY WILDE FOOTAGE

Fleas already mentioned him.

 

So he has atsch

 

Zamora could hit. So could Zarate.

 

And Kalambay :deal

 

I gave him a shout out on the first page :huh

He had unbelievable force. Not the most durable, but in terms of punching form he was like a more refined Bantamweight Cuevas IMO.

EDIT: Apparently, not too hard to miss the obvious.

:deal

 

Wilde must have been a very good puncher but p4p the greatest or in that vicinity is an absolute no.

Many of the opponent had next to no fights so the skill disparity would have been to great, and with a fighter on Wilde level he would make it count. Trapping them and making them look foolish.

The gloves back then were also much lighter, just two factors to take into account.

 

A lot of Wildes oppostion isn't the best but a lot of the fighters he fought have incomplete records, thats different from not having had many fights.

 

First and foremost, there is scant records from the lower weights at that time. To say they has 'next to no fights' is completely inaccurate; we just don't have their records. Rosner and YZK were very good fighters, and there are even some reports floating about that Wilde stopped legendary Bantam Joe Lynch in there first fight (according to some...I've never pinned anything down on that myself)

The gloves were lighter, which means there is a much bigger chance of breaking your hands. Therefore, timing and accuracy were key. Also, Wilde stopped bigger guys. He was also a NATURAL straw' by todays standards.

His power was legit', and you can see what a serious puncher he was even in his losing effort to Pancho Villa.

 

Well if they're incomplete that's the face value we have to take the majority of his opponents on. We can't claim they've had more if no proof is at hand.

 

Thats the wrong way to look at it IMHO.

Big Boxrec fan, eh?atsch

 

Talking of British Flyweight punchers, Peter Kane is touted as a massive hitter. Only seen a little bit of him, and that was him being overwhelmed by Benny Lynch. Like Wilde, I find it hard to source a lot of Kanes opposition.

For me, the answer I'm most comfortable with is Julian Jackson. Pretty much everyone stopped in mid-air and flopped down like a tree struck by lightning, totally unreal, uncommon, and against opposition we know to be good, from 11-11 1/2 stone.

 

Thanks Gaz, I was about to throw a right tanty

 

We know for a fact those records are incomplete so taking them at face value as them being novices is probably not the greatest of ideas.

Thats different from awarding these men greatness they didn't deserve, its just acknowledging that they weren't inexperienced in many cases.

 

On incomplete records a bit of common sense doesn't go amiss. You see boxers with Boxrec records where they've had a total of 4-5 fights and fought for a national title in their 3rd bout.

Obviously there are likely many lost fights on the boxers record.

 

How is that the wrong way to look at things.

If you have no evidence then in the court of law it stands for nothing, not much more than a fairy tale. In comparison it's similar to saying froch punches very hard but has not knocked anybody out in 20 fights for example. It's nothing more than an unsubstantiated claim.

You discredit boxrec yet provide no sources or no accounts.