Is JMM the most versatile fighter of the last 20 years?

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  1. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Early on,Juanma was a fabulously skilled boxer-puncher,although he wasn't exactly box-office to the casual fan,and for that reason became one of the most avoided fighters around.
    Then he makes his move into the big(ish) time around the time of the MAB fight,although for me,this was where he became less fan-friendly IMO(for casual fans) with a more reserved style where he became one of the premier counter-punchers.
    Then he reverts to a combination of both,going for a more box office style,whilst maintaining his wonderful counterpunching and throwing in some wonderful offense,finally finding the style that guaranteed the worldwide acclaim he so richly deserved(albeit way too late IMO)

    Has there been a more adaptable fighter in recent times.

    Here are some good examples from each period;


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB6PG6D8KJs[/ame]

    and...


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iN1oPr9sM8[/ame]

    Acknowledgement to Intentional Butt.;)




    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqKfih67fTU[/ame]


    Don't mind admitting I wanted Barrera to win that one,but I was all for Marquez before and after.Even against the saviour of boxing.:hey


    And then we have;

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6-YE-pZHmI[/ame]

    The long straight right has always been a wonderful weapon throughout each stage though.
     
  2. bballchump11

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  3. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    JMM is the complete package. Great footwork, incredible counter punching, and crowd pleasing.

    Too often the best technicians offer no entertainment value. Conversely, many of the warrior types are not technically proficient.

    JMM is both. He deserves the acclaim from all angles and will go down as one the most loved boxers of this era.
     
  4. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who else you got bball?
     
  5. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    One of them for sure.

    I'd say Whitaker and Hopkins are more versatile.

    Guys like Chavez, Finito, Barrera, Mayweather, De La Hoya, and most recently Ward are up there as well.
     
  6. jeffjoiner

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    Solid list.

    Here's my thing: JMM has won several all out firefights, yet I can't recall Hopkins, or Whitaker doing the same.
     
  7. PityTheFool

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    I think Hopkins is probably the most adaptable,although the way I see it,his whole style is based around adapting to the opponent.
    I don't have a problem with Floyd either,although I think Floyd makes others adapt to him,which is a wonderful strategy.
    As for Finito,if a kid with basic skills and no outrageous God-given talent wanted to learn the game,Lopez might well be my first DVD stop if I was a trainer.

    And Barrera is the most similar to what I'm getting at here,given that he also adapted to suit his body and age.
    I suppose that's what I was getting at.
     
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  9. box247

    box247 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Would all these statements hold true or close to before the Pacquiao KO. If so then they have merit. If no then he could be a KO away from everyone changing their minds
     
  10. Zopilote

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    I get what you're saying there, but at the same time, both B-Hop and Pea were far more effective at leading than Juan, as well as fighting on the inside, in which Juan is also very good at IMO.
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Mayweather- he simply beats all of his opponents at their own game, fighting the kind of fight the opponent would want him to heading in and still dominates.

    Ricardo Lopez, Hopkins, Ward all good shouts.
     
  12. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd by a country mile. He seem to do everything perfect in offense and defense and he adapt/adjust very well. From his boxer/puncher days to pure counter puncher as he aged. Plus he can fight in any range including on the ropes. Plus he can deal with any styles that come his way.
     
  13. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd have to say there's not much argument against Floyd when you consider how he was at 130,then his classic style at 147,yet he can slow down and get it done brilliantly at 154.

    I still think Bernard doesn't apply as much here,but Zopilote has given some solid suggestions.
     
  14. LoRd_inFamousX1

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    I think that Floyd Mayweather is but Marquez is high on the list
     
  15. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Witaker, Bernard, and I'd still say Floyd is above him as well