Is Joe Calzaghe a legend Killer?

I come on ESB again, and yet again my fellow Calzaghe fans are embarrassing us and him with their stupid ****.

Calzaghe comes away with one flippant remark to rub Hopkins's nose in it after the fight and try to build a bit of interest in this rotten fight with Roy Jones, and we have Calzaghe fanboys blackening his name, pissing everyone off by taking it literally.

Joe is not a legend killer. And TFFP, he isn't one of the best defensive boxers p4p in the world, and he isn't the best at mixing power and speed in history.

Don't you realize Joe wouldn't even say these things about himself???

Why can't you just appreciate Cal for what he is, and stop making him a figure of hate and ridicule on here by saying he is Superman in every way?

His strengths are amazing handspeed, brilliant combination punching, great bodystrength, a good chin, adaptability, fitness and workrate. These are the facts.

He hasn't killed any legends, or done any of the stupid **** you guys like Pugilist and TFFP and China_Hand_Joe come out with. I wish you would all just either grow up or **** off because the reason many fans hate Joe is because of idiots like you.

Joe Calzaghe is a truly great boxer. Pity most of his fans are not worthy of him.

 

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Bravo. A true fan who is not a fanboy. A man after my own heart. I am a Pacman, but I don't do what these Calzaghe freaks do and vote in every poll and comment on every thread saying Pac is the best at everything ever. They're pathetic. STUPENDOUS comment caldragon. Not that it will make a blind bit of difference to chumps like the 3 u mentioned!

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When you are over 40, age can catch up on you very very quickly. Even though Hopkins lost to Taylor in '05, he fought a young hungry middleweight in his mid-late 20s, and didn't show much signs of flagging in a very fast-paced fight.

Moving up to light-heavyweight and fighting Tarver (38 at the time) and Wright (36) meant the pace had slowed significantly, as neither of these guys fight with pace and intensity like the middleweight Taylor, so Hopkins's stamina/fitness/workrate/energy was not tested in this way in these fights.

Calzaghe does use pace and intensity, and whereas Hopkins did not wilt in the Taylor fights against a younger fresher opponent, it was glaringly obvious this king of conditioning (Hopkins has always been in amazing shape on fightnight through his whole career) was blowing out his arse after a few rounds.

Therefore, it should be obvious that the 3 years between Taylor and Calzaghe (between 40 and 43 years of age), made a big difference in Hopkins. This should be obvious to the non-biased fan. Look at the difference in Pernell Whitaker in the De La Hoya fight (1997) and the Trinidad fight (1999)- he looked like a different man, he had aged in the space of 2 years. And Hopkins was a lot older and had had a lot more fights than Sweet Pea. This is only natural.


On the subject of Kessler, we clearly have a different concept of the word 'legend'. I think there have only been a handful of legends in the past 25 years (Sweet Pea, Chavez, RJJ, Lewis, Holyfield, and only maybe Tyson and PBF- no1 else). There is no way Mikkel Kessler will ever come close to that status, no ****ing way. I would fancy Pavlik, Abraham, Tarver, Hopkins, Glen Johnson and Chad Dawson to beat him. Not sure if Taylor has the strength at smw. I think Kessler's a very good smw, but nothing more.

 

Well obviously it comes down to a definition of legend killer, if it requires near-prime victories to count, then of course he isn't.

 

The poll has reached 100 votes for NO WAY- well done ESB, let's celebrate at these idiots expense!!!!