Is Joe Calzaghe a Master Boxer?

He has Great hand speed, Great chin, Superb stamina, near phenomenal work rate.

 

have you people actually seen him fight?
your description makes it sound like he just runs around throwing punches like a ****ing windmill.
i sugest you watch or rewatch the lacy fight(i know he is **** so dont start on that one)he showed imense skill in throwing combos,footwork,inteligence and all round ability to make lacy look like like a pub drunk for 12 rounds. and also the kessler fight who in my opinion is just as good as pavlic. its just a shame he is not american.

 

That's a good list and yes Joe C. should be on that list as well.

 

Not A Master Boxer No Way !!!

 

I agree with this, though I still think that his ability to adjust his game plan is part of a master boxers trait.

 

joe is an incredibly talented boxer who adapts to situations.. he was able to do that against bhop, and look at the schooling he did against lacy. i rate him highly when it comes to boxing iq.. add that to his workrate (he slaps in bunches) and speed and you have a very good fighter..

now this is my serious assessment on joe c

 

correct.. too bad in his current weightclass power just isn't one of his natural abilities

 

Much depends on how you define 'Master Boxer'

I have a list of six.

Sugar Ray Robinson
Muhamad Ali
Sugar Ray Leonard
Pernell Whittaker
Roy Jones Junior
Floyd Mayweather Junior


IMO, these guys are in a different class from the rest. I have followed five of their careers and seen enough video of the sixth to make a judgment.

At least three of them would miss the mark, if orthodox practise were a big criteria. They were highly skilled and very athletic, but somewhat unorthodox. They all got the job done.


There are many other boxers who I rank as great, both by their skill level and by their accomplishment, but they're not quite at the mastery level of the six.

Some of them bring intangibles other than master boxing skills.

E.g.

I regard Duran as a greater boxer than the more skilled Leonard.


Regarding the thread question, of those active today, I regard Toney, Calzaghe, Hopkins, Pac, Marquez, Delahoya, and Mosley, as being in the same general level of class.

I'm not saying they're all of equal skill, but they're all very skilled, and yet outside my "master six' level.

All to a greater or lesser degree, just below the master level.

 

atsch
most ridiculous post of the day canidate???:---roll::roll::tired:tired

 

YES!

 

Excellent post that. :good

 

No, he is not. He is kind of awkard and wins his fights with his workrate and speed. Not exactly a masterboxer.

 

Benny Leonard was the epitome of a master boxer. One of the true pioneers of the modern game. Willie Pep is often regarded as the best pure boxer of all time, and while little to no footage of a prime Pep exists, even the past prime version we have on film rates very highly. Duran was one of the most skilled fighter of all time at his peak, a master technician, one of the very best we have on film. Moore was one of the elite composite punchers in ring history due to his accuracy, timing, poise, and craftiness. A bit of a mix between Hopkins and Toney, with a much bigger punch than either.

Guys like Marquez and Toney are great boxers, great at what they do, though I wouldn't classify them as masters in the grand scheme of things. Lopez technically was one of the best we have on film, but never proved it the way the others did in regards to facing top opposition.

 

A Master Slapper !

 

Calzaghe has very underrated accuracy. Of course when he does a slap-a-thon he misses most of his punches but when he starts to pick his shots then you will see that he can be very accurate and also he is very good at dodging punches it really takes the perfectly timed shot to hit him flush