Is Joe Calzaghe Overrated?

Beating 43 year old Hopkins, aside from prime Kessler, is Joe Calzaghes best ever win.

 

No far from it ..Only somneone who's blood pumps with hate think he's overratted !

 

What's your "overrated"?

 

Dam r got stuck on my keyboard !

 

Well if recognizing what he did at super middle makes me simple minded so be it if u think the opposite than your a complete ****** ..Have fun riding the short bus to work ..:good

 

Thought he was poking fun at the typo ..

Examples of overrated :


Vivian Harris

Jr Witter

 

I'll never answer that question Joe Calzaghe and the word overrated don't belong in the same sentence imo ..

 

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not even gonna comment:bart

 

Not by me.....:yep

 

My comments about Joe never beating Ottke, Mundine, Beyer, and Johnson are not saying he couldn't, i'm saying it disproves that he cleaned out his division. He fought many fighters less than these. Jones never fought Michelweski, but he fought everybody else, and Michelweski was RJJ's Ottke. Hopkins beat every single noteworthy middlweight from '95-'05. Every single one. If you're going to stay at a division for 10+ years and make that your claim to greatness, you should probably fight all of the best unless it is a talented and deep division, where you can fight guys who are stars and outstanding fighters themselves. Jones, Calzaghe, and Hopkins did not preside over talented and deep divisions. My comments are simply saying he did not clean out and dominate his divsion for 10 years like everyone seems to say. I don't buy the 21 defenses at supermiddleweight comparing to Hopkins' 20, or Holmes' 20, or Louis' 25, or Lopez' 22, because he did not become THE champion until Lacy. he has 21 WBO defenses, and 3 World defenses. The inclusion of Johnson as a opponent he never fought is based entirely on him signing to the fight then pulling out for no reason. Not because Johnson was a top 4-5 168lbs. fighter. I know this is a long post, but i'm explaining all my criticisms of his career. He fought and beat a guy who beat everyone else at the top who he himself never beat. That's like Floyd taking on 140lbs fighters or faded stars while Cotto cleans out the division, and then PBF beating Cotto. Of course it's a great win, and of course he is considered greater than Cotto or any of the other fighters, but it doesn't make him a dominant champion. Calzaghe claims to be a dominant champion. If he was as great as most say he is, he should have done something impressive a long time ago, because he had the 2 best P4P fighters in the world directly above him and below him, yet made no reason for either to fight him. Now he fights each of them when one is 43 and 2-2 in his last 4 fights, and the other is 40 and 0-3 in his only fights against world class opponents in 4 years. I don't see that as a career of greatness. He's very talented and skilled, and like someone said, has a career that wasted that talent. And to those who say Hopkins or Jones ducked him, fighting Calzaghe a few years ago would be like fighting Ottke. There would be no reason to do it. It wouldn't have improved their standing, they wouldn't be fighting a star fighter, and all they would gain would be the WBO 168lbs. title, as meaningless a title as any other.

 

He could and should have been much more. All these years i thought Warren was holding him back and was making a ***** out of him. Only two or three meaningful fights in a very long career at the top.

Turns out hes the ***** and not Warren.

As a fighter i find him very boring. Half of the punches he throws in a fight are just wind and show and should not count on the cards.

How high he is rated in people eyes i don't give a ****. He will have a place in history, but.. When people will talk about him, they will talk about is defense record, possibly the Kessler fight and say but

Go beat up old Roy and cement your career moron. And another but to your resume.

 

You know a guy is overrated when he's 45-0 and the undisputed champion in two divisions yet many question his greatness, as well as his right to be in the HOF, as they should. Similar to Rocky Marciano. Some call him the greatest heavy ever, and some even call him the P4P best because he's the only undefeated heavyweight champ and has wins over Charles, Moore, and Walcott. Some, on the other hand, don't consider him a top 10 heavy or a top 50 P4P, because Charles and Moore were past their best, ancient lightheavyweights, and Walcott was an acient top 20 heavy, all of whom did better against him than one would think. There is a lot of problems with retiring undefeated, because your defeats make your greatness more defined. If Marciano had stayed a while and fought Patterson or Liston, or had not avoided Nino Valdez, we would know more about where to place him. You can't leave your career that open to questioning. Calzaghe is doing just that, and it's too late to change it. If he destroys RJJ, the questions remain. If he struggles, but pulls of the win, more questions come up. If he loses, he's not great, simple as that.

 

Calzaghe is truely a great champion.

 

there is really something wrong with calzaghe if he's questionable to a lot of people and i do say a lot. And it doesn't have something to do with the fact that it is because he's not american, thats a poor excuse considering the likes of cotto and pac who aren't also american