So this is about being caucasian and having jazzlike ability to skillfully outclass em or is this is about a caucasian or italian-american or italian-welsh being dominant? Cause if you r going with the first , I am not even going to much back further into the past, ODLH was much greater than any other and he was more caucasian than latin. And if you go with the second thing, then how do you rate Joe along with Marciano??? Well, just to say that I am not a Calzaghe naysayer cause I have most if not all of his fights, I would say he is the most sucessful european fighter alongside with Maske and after Marcel Cerdan. Happy?
Anyway back to the thread, I think Calzaghe has a good case but is probably just behind Barbados Joe walcott in the ATG rankings
I bet I've read a lot more about Harry Greb than you have. Round by round newpaper accounts, The Fearless Harry Greb and just about every article I could find on the man. I have also seen footage of many of the greats he defeated, in some cases quite easily. Have you ever seen footage of the great Gene Tunney? Another white fighter who could be rated ahead of Joe Calzaghe. How about Tommy Loughran? Have you ever seen footage of him? Mickey Walker anyone? Harry Greb beat those guys and many more. He did this for the last 5 years of his career while blind in one eye. In the year 1919 alone, he went 45-0! He defeated more hall of famers than anyone in history. He fought every middleweight, light heavyweight and heavyweight that would fight him and defeated almost all of them. Oh yeah, but I suppose you have to see someone to be sure of their greatness. atsch