Is Joe Calzaghe the greatest volume puncher of all time?

pryor has to be ahead of him.

 

paul williams was a freak of nature with his lenght and hieght and how much punches he threw

 

Joe "the slapper" Calzaghe.........

 

Hear hear... Calzaghe was dreadfully mismanaged by Frank ******, and he just let it happen, seriously compromising his legacy in the process.

 

Ha...

Funny, everything about this thread and all the posts.

I will say that George Foreman was pretty devastating... I think he counts as a volume puncher if some people are saying Hopkins and Sweet Pea, who were the opposite of a volume puncher.

 

It's all bull**** mate.

In the original video, his head is nearly touching the bag, and his hands are about half an inch away from it.

In the Manfredo video, he misses with six shots.

In the second video, he's got his legs wide apart, and he throws 10 cuffs from out wide. In the training video, he punches with his fists in a straight line. Completely different. Not that it matters.

You can't fight against anyone, in the same way he was hitting the bag in training.

That exercise shows his stamina and his hand speed. But it's not in anyway practical.

He did have a great shot output, but he was very scrappy and untidy at times.

 

realsoulja,

1. I never said he wasn't touching his opponent. I said that in the training video, his head was nearly touching the bag.

2. I haven't changed anything mate.


Look, I appreciate why Joe did what he did in training. It was great for stamina, and for his hand speed.


But to replicate that in a real fight, he'd had to have have done the following things:

(If his opponent was in the same place as the bag)


1. He'd had to have been stood directly in front of his opponent.

2. His head would had to have been half an inch from his opponents face.

3. He would had to have been throwing straight punches into his opponents chest repeatedly, from about half an inch out.

4. His opponent would had to have been stood there straight and been completely motionless.

There you go there then. His opponent tried to move out of the way, where as the bag obviously didn't.

It was obviously done mainly for fitness.

Of course. But he had a 100% accuracy rate in training, because he couldn't miss could he?

He was stood firing shots at a stationary target from half an inch away.

His stamina in the video is very impressive. But apart from that, it wasn't practical, and it couldn't have been replicated in a real fight.

That's fair enough, but again, my point was that he couldn't replicate what he'd done in training, and applied it in a fight.

Again fair enough.

It's funny because we've somehow found ourselves in a completely pointless debate.

We must be getting laughed at by other members that are reading this.

Joe OBVIOUSLY didn't train like that, to try and replicate those exact punches, from that distance to try and incorporate them into a real fight.

It's my own fault for originally saying that I wasn't impressed. But I just meant from a practical point of view.

But again, it was clearly never Joe's intentions to incorporate those exact things into a fight.

I agree, and if his training that we saw helped him achieve it, then fair enough.

As above, that's fair enough. Again, my original point was, that it didn't impress me because it wasn't practical. But if it helped Joe become the great volume puncher that he was, then it was obviously a very important part of his training, and I respect that.

 

Freaking broke out laughing...

Been too long since I'd seen that...

 

I'd like to retract my original statement, where I said "That's bollocks! What was the purpose of doing that?"

I'd had a few last night, and now it's clear that he obviously just did it to help his fitness, hand speed and shot output.

He clearly never intended to do exactly what he'd done in training, in a real life fight.

In other words mate, just ignore me, it's been a long week.


Of course Joe applied those mini punches, and his training obviously helped him do that.

I wasn't trying to be argumentative, I was just stating that the punches from your videos, weren't the same as what he'd done in training.

But it's obvious why that was the case.

 

Cool mate, his training that we saw obviously helped him achieve this.

Just ignore my previous posts. :good