Is Joe Gallagher dangerous....

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Spearmint Rhino, Apr 21, 2012.


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  1. Spearmint Rhino

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    I mean.... has there ever been a trainer so apparently inept at drilling his fighters in terms of their defensive skills?

    He's had lots of talent walk into that gym, and they all seem to morph into flat footed, average punching plodders that get hit constantly - seemingly the only hope is to have a better chin than your opponent or hope that he's got Paulie type power.

    John Murray - banged up and stopped x2
    Steven Smith - banged up and stopped vs Selby
    Paul Smith - blasted out by Groves
    Macklin - face first slugging vs Sturm
    Joe Murray- ragged as hell every fight
    Quigg - getting hit more and more in recent fights

    And now Crolla.... :-(

    It seems the 42-0 or whatever it was t-shirts have well and truly come back to bite him on the arse.

    I know it's the ''Manchester style'' but FFS, how hard can it be to come up with a few defensive tricks, and implement them?

    For all the **** that I've given Vince Cleverly.... on recent form there ain't much to choose between them.
     
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  2. richard mossley

    richard mossley Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he is a terrible trainer, all his fighters take way too much punishment
     
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  3. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    TBH Jim Watt made a comment early in fight that struck a cord with me when he said 'when i first saw Crolla he looked a nice boxer but not strong but now he's stronger'(Paraphrasing). Really Crolla has become stronger and has now decided to march forward with gloves blocking face. Bullying and breaking down opponents. Now that wasn't the kid i first saw fighting...

    Squared up on shoulders and coming in straight lines, I dunno but from the entrance music hitting i sensed he thought he could just hit Derry's nose and it was game over.

    Pressure fighting isn't walking forward covering face and landing few jabs and body shots and then getting stuck in on inside. There seems to be a lack of craft about the 'Manchester style' and it's being shown up.

    I think the formula run out a while back, Look what Selby did to Smith who again just steamed in. There's no angles, there's a variety of punches and effectiveness but not much else.
     
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  4. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Scrub P Smith and Murray from that list. They were just overmatched.
     
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  5. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    gallaghers fighters dont seem to move their heads, at all. even cursory side to side head movement and move pivoting off his front foot and crolla would have stopped mathews imo
     
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  6. Spearmint Rhino

    Spearmint Rhino Guest

    :good

    ****... forgot about Well Prepared Mitchell ;)

    Fair enough....
     
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  7. chrisbonnie

    chrisbonnie Active Member Full Member

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    i reckon Gallaghers "expert analysis" consists of him and his fighters sitting down to watch a Rocky movie. Their defenses are not just ****, their non existent.
     
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  8. DrMo

    DrMo Team GB Full Member

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    Pressure isnt effective if you cant avoid shots on the way in, look at Chavez & Frazier who had great head movement

    Joe Gs fighters just plough straight forward, upright & gloves high. There doesnt seem to be any real craft or method to the madness
     
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  9. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    :lol:

    I meant Rios!:p;)
     
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  10. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    :lol:

    I think gameplans are done around the protein shakes and bars.
     
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  11. boranbkk

    boranbkk "ไม่ได้โม้นะ" Full Member

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    :deal

    Good post.
     
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  12. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I like him..

    I like his violent style of training.

    I am a big fan of violence inside of the ring.
     
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  13. lozkina

    lozkina Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i would like to see stephen smith going back to the rotunda but he wont
     
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  14. macho_grande

    macho_grande "I'll never get over" Full Member

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    I'm quite new to Crolla.... After watching the build up I was expecting to see something very different from him...

    You have to question the sparring. Crolla had no clue what to do when he got hurt. Surly this sort of stuff should get covered of in sparring?
     
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  15. Bill C84

    Bill C84 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Its like he teaches his fighters to fight like a Mexican but without the skill and movement.
     
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