Is John Ruiz the best ...US HW fighter of the last decade?

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  1. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl


    The only list Ruiz belongs on is the one of the worst beltholders of all time, at or near the top.:yep
     
    Zakman, Dec 15, 2009
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  2. Stinky gloves

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    with skills you are right but with accomplishments he will surprise you,
    Larry Holmes aint better :deal :smoke
     
    Stinky gloves, Dec 15, 2009
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  3. Zakman

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    Man, I want some of what you're smokin'!!!!
     
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  4. Brickhaus

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    I'd put Byrd ahead of him, but he's second. Sadly.
     
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  5. Brickhaus

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    Not even close, under almost any standard. Even if you're just talking heavyweights, and you consider his "cheating" wins to be losses, he's still better than Michael Bentt, Herbie Hide and a bunch of the fat cokeheads from the '80's. And if you're looking at other weight classes as well, he doesn't even hold a candle to guys like Maselino Masoe, Gavin Rees, Luis Santana (who ACTUALLY won the title only by cheating), Eric Aiken and my new favorite, Likar Ramos.
     
    Brickhaus, Dec 15, 2009
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  6. Zakman

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    Excessive holding is against the rules of boxing. That's cheating. Oh, and Ruiz pulled the same sort of **** Santana did too.

    Even the worst beltholders of the 80s, guys like Tubbs or Smith, were FAR more talented than Ruiz. And they won their belts legitimately!
     
    Zakman, Dec 15, 2009
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  7. J.R.

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    No, Chris Byrd is, but Johnny Ruiz is a close second. :patsch
     
    J.R., Dec 15, 2009
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  8. Borincano

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    Your not going to make a dent on how Zakman feels about Ruiz being the worst fighter in history. Even if by some chance he KO's Haye, he'll probably say he was drugged by Don King. He is not the worst and Zakman has his opinion.
     
    Borincano, Dec 15, 2009
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  9. lufcrazy

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    Shannon Briggs would destroy Ruiz!
     
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  10. Stinky gloves

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    With the number of shots per round Ruiz would not only embarrass Briggs but also enforced an asthma attack on him around 6th round.
     
    Stinky gloves, Dec 15, 2009
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  11. lufcrazy

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    one punch off briggs sends ruiz to sleep
     
    lufcrazy, Dec 15, 2009
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  12. Zakman

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    Well, I also have the Queensbury rules, which say excessive holding is a no-no.:nono:D

    Please note rule #2:

    [FONT=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2. No wrestling or hugging allowed.[/FONT]

    http://iml.jou.ufl.edu/projects/spring03/Bueneventura/rules.htm
     
    Zakman, Dec 15, 2009
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