Is John Ruiz the worst Heavyweight Champion in 30 years, or of all time?

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  1. KERRIGAN

    KERRIGAN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Having watched Ruiz vs Roy Jones Jnr recently, I was shocked at how inept and useless Ruiz was in using his size and what should have been punching power advantage, against RJJ.

    It looked like Ruiz was struggling to land more than 2 shots at a time to RJJ, and even those were blocked by Roy's forearms.

    Consider this was Ruiz's "Time to Shine", I would regard it as the worst effort by the reigning Heavyweight Champion I have ever seen.

    Off the top of my head the only Heavyweight champion in the history of the sport who Ruiz might have been better than, was Jess Willard, but even that is a stretch.

    Have I been too hard on "The Quiet Man", or simply assessed him fairly?
     
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  2. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    In a era with one title, Ruiz would've just been a contender.

    So would Jones. Which is why the whole 'middlweight champ to heavyweight champ' is flawed. He just picked up a meaningless ABC title.
     
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  3. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    No.

    I think Valuev is.
     
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  4. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    ...He's better than Valuev, probably Peter too. Nah, I don't think he's the worst. He's in the running though. You made me laugh with the tags. :lol:
     
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  5. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Michael Bent?
     
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  6. Lewisbell

    Lewisbell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bentt isn't amazing but he wasn't that bad, I mean he had a stellar amateur career but was mismanaged by his pro handlers
     
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  7. MagicMan91

    MagicMan91 The Main Event Mafia Full Member

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    Valuev says Hello.
     
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  8. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    Beat me to it.

    Any time I see a "worst Heavyweight" thread, Michael Bent's name immediately springs to mind.
     
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  9. KERRIGAN

    KERRIGAN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Valuev has two wins against Ruiz though.
     
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  10. Hooch

    Hooch Well-Known Member Full Member

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    **** thread,

    Ruiz has won the title 3 times FFS and beaten some good fighters

    Try Frans Botha, try Gerrie Coetzee - try doing some research about fighters around more than 5 years ago
     
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  11. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ruiz is ****, he's up there with Bent.
     
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  12. KERRIGAN

    KERRIGAN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Would one count the WBO Heavyweight Title back then as being comparable to the other 3 organisations?
     
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  13. KERRIGAN

    KERRIGAN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like who?

    Holyfield used a zimmer frame on the way to the ring, when he fought the Boring Man.
     
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  14. Hooch

    Hooch Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No way, not even close
     
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  15. K-Man

    K-Man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ruiz is nowhere near the worst. Not a model, but he was capable enough to smack Holyfield.
     
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