Is Josh Taylor a HOF

As you say, he got lucky against Collazo, who was a B-level fighter, and he got dropped by Eamonn Magee, and I think he was lucky to win that one as well. He didn't just lose to Mayweather or Pac; he looked totally out of his depth, especially against Pacquiao. His win resume was padded with limited opposition. I don't want to pick holes in his resume too much. Hatton is a legend of British boxing, but if we compare achievements, I don't see any reason why Hatton gets in and Taylor doesn't. One shouldn't be in there without the other.

 

Helllllllll noooooo!

 

You've completely ignored he beat an elite fighter in Tszyu. Tszyu was a bit past his best at 35 but had looked sensational in his last fight against Mitchell just 7 months prior.

Now if Hatton had not beaten Tszyu and proved he belonged at the elite level then yeah you'd be right. But that Tszyu win put Hatton on a level where Taylor never reached.

 

I think Taylor winning all four belts puts him on that same level though. I'm not saying Taylor has a better win on his record than Hatton does against Tsyzu, because he doesn't, but in terms of achievements that get boxers into the HOF, becoming undisputed in the four belt era, and becoming the first ever British fighter to do it, is just as solid as any of Hatton's wins. I don't think either of them should be in there in terms of skill or resume; it should be reserved for the very highest bracket, but they're on the same level when it comes to overall career achievements.

 

That your opinion and that's fine but I personally don't put that much value in the belts. I value quality of opposition more than picking up a belt against a half decent fighter.

Do you think Jermell Charlo deserves entry into the hall of fame he was undisputed too in the 4 belt era, but also lost to Harrison and was lucky in the first Castano fight, which just goes to show it's who you beat not the belts you collect that matters.

 

It’s already disgraceful enough that Meldrick Taylor hasn’t been in the HOF yet.

 

He will get in. There are multiple names less accomplished that got in, even recently. One name that comes to mind immediately, Shawn Porter.

 

Shawn Porter isn't in the HOF, genius.

I think you're thinking about Bradley.

Bradley isn't much deserving either, but Bradley's resume was WAY better than Taylor's.

 

Hatton was tag teamed by Mayweather and Joe Cortez and was never at the races against Pac due to a dreadful camp. Still would've lost as they are certified ATG's but at his v.best, Hatton was always competitive

 

I think Charlo deserves it because it's an incredible achievement. Fighters get into the HOF for different reasons and different types of great achievements, some are miles better than others on paper, but the benchmark for the HOF seems to be those who have achieved a significant amount. It seems quite subjective.

Taylor deserves it because he's the first UK-based undisputed four-belt champion. He also unified the belts against Ramirez in the US, which is one of the most significant achievements ever by a British fighter, although I know the bar isn't that high. Vinny Paz is being inducted because of the incredible story behind him, but he wouldn't have got in on skill alone. Taylor would've got smoked by Pacquiao, Crawford, and Mayweather, but the HOF isn't just about skill alone. I agree with you that skill-wise, Taylor is nowhere near the calibre of most of the inductees.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Charlo or Taylor were inducted, as you say people get inducted for many reasons and not all of them based upon how good they were or even what they achieved in the ring. Hell the way things are going Jake Paul might get inducted one day because of how big a draw he is and how he's drawn casuals into the sport that may have never watched boxing without his involvement.

I guess where we differ is you are talking about the reality of what is required to be inducted and I am talking about what "should" be required to be inducted. Does Taylor deserve to be inducted because of his ability and his resume? I don't think so, but I can see him being inducted because he was the first to be 4 belt undisputed from the UK, that's unique enough to perhaps get him in.

 

No

 

Hey dumbass. Shawn Porter was inducted into both the Neveda Boxing Hall of Fame and the Summit County Sports Hall of Fame last year.

You want to point out any where the OP stated the IBHOF or the WBHOF specifically.....

I answer the question as it was asked and no I wasn't thinking of Tim Bradley otherwise I would have said Tim Bradley...... Stay in your place boy.

 

Yes.

Y'all are being way too stringent about the HOF. Taylor got a short career but thats the product of this era. He had a 7 fight run where his opponents as a group just had 1 loss. Of those 7, 5 were world champions and 4 Postol, Prograis, Ramirez and Catteral are borderline HOF fighters. I don't care about "undisputed" but he got that by beating everyone else who could have claimed to be the 140 champion after Crawford went up to 147.

On paper Taylor only got 4 defenses but despite being a WBC Silver title fight Taylor v Postol really should have been for the 140 belt. The WBC Silver title isn't a real title but in this specific case it pretty much was.

If you think Taylor couldn't have won at WW that doesn't make him not a HOFer.