Is Joshua just another akinwande

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  1. Mr Humble

    Mr Humble New Member Full Member

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    Don't even think he would need to press the steam button
     
  2. Ex Army Jim 39

    Ex Army Jim 39 Love that Full Member

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    Wilders had more fights against top boys than joshua though he fought fury three times great trilogy one for memory banks that Joshua klichko n Usyk lost one nearly lost other credit for winning vs vlad on brink of pakin in
     
  3. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Furybwas a cherry pick gone wrong after being inactive for so long and looking poor against two journeymen on his return. Wilder even admitted he turned down more money to fight AJ to fight Fury who he said didn't deserve a title shot but he felt sorry for Fury - pretty much admitting it was a cherry pick gone wrong. Was mandated to fight him in the second fight and had no choice.

    Whilst AJ beat the likes of Wlad, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz and Pulev all better than Wilders best win in Ortiz.
     
  4. hobby rider

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    Weird how Joshua’s loss against Usyk goes against him yet wilder getting hammered twice by fury and once fighting him when he was a fat slobbering mess is a “great trilogy one for the memory banks”
     
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  5. FastLeft

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    because Wilder was fight like a warrior in all fights. even second fight he is fighting. Joshua show not the much urgency losing to Usyk.
     
  6. EJC83

    EJC83 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think Usyk is the kind of guy you can "fight like a warrior" against, I think that style plays into his hands, he's a very tricky opponent. I'll say it again, Gassiev was a brilliant Cruiser and Usyk absolutely bossed him, Briedis was and still is a brilliant Cruiser, it was easy for Usyk. He's a very hard nights work for anyone decent because he'll up his game to the levels required to win. There's this idea that because Usyk didn't look like a heavyweight Lomachenko against Witherspoon and Chisora that he must be flawed but if Chisora was coming into that fight as a World Champion you can bet anything that Usyk would have turned it on.
     
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  7. FastLeft

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    this is true. Usyk control the fight. & gives AJ few chance to look like warrior. still it is the answer to why Wilder is being saved to remember for trilogy as classic epic & AJ losing with Usyk will not . AJ will always be remembered epic fight with Klitschko.

    but also let not us let AJ off so freely. he did under instruction of from worse advisor McCracken do as I mention. not fighting with urgency & boxing as if think he is winning. this needs the redemption now. & will recall a less than warrior end of Ruiz first fight. whereas Wilder is continuing like gladiator to death with Fury. yes maybe not tricky to do with Fury who lives likes this wars. also in credit to the AJ, Wilder is hold a clear advantage of low intelligence LOL so ' stupid creates bravery"" In such case. with due respect to what he did of course
     
  8. hobby rider

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    Chisora supposedly fights like a warrior in all his fights too so does he get a pass for his losses and is he in the memory bank as well?
     
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  9. EJC83

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    Chisora scrapes a questionable SD against a guy that Joshua laid out 18 months ago and there were people that genuinely think he could give Wilder a hard night and beat Joshua. The marketing job done on Chisora over the years eclipses anything that Joshua has had, Chisora would be given tests like Kabayel , Parker, Whyte and Pulev (first fight) to see if he's good enough to be pushed for a title fight and each time he'd come up short. Granted he was unlucky in the White fights but he's just never cut it enough to deserve the kind of platform he's been given, I haven't even mentioned the two defeats to a young Fury and the brutal KO dished out by a post Vlad fight Haye. It really is bizarre how he's been built up despite all of this. If Chisora had been given the likes of Brezeale, Molina, Martin and Povetkin to fight you can guarantee that he'd have found a way to lose, even against that version of Molina, he'd have been ill disciplined or something and ended up gassing, being deducted points, getting frustrated with the overhand rights, I've just never had any faith in him. It's a shame because despite some of the things he's done I always wanted him to do well in a boxing ring up until after that first Pulev fight, at that point I'd given up on him.
     
  10. FastLeft

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    if he put Fury down for counts of 9 yes. & carry KO power through fight to threat Fury. but he had not. others will say yes to Chisora

    if you belief AJ performance of the loss to Usyk is memorable performancs as much as Wilder last fight with Fury this is entitled to an opinion. for me no I do not see it . I can not see it
     
  11. Vegan Beast

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    He's almost always entertaining whether he's KOing or being slapped around.

    He's a very good HW boxer, good entertainer.

    He's not ATG level at all, but he's way better than average.

    You can't say the lad is boring to watch. He just needs to get back to what made him a king in the first place. Being aggressive and going all out for the KO.

    He's got skills, but he's not great at making the hit and not get hit style attractive.
     
  12. Ex Army Jim 39

    Ex Army Jim 39 Love that Full Member

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    A king lol
     
  13. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    that's what ur mom said.
     
  14. Ex Army Jim 39

    Ex Army Jim 39 Love that Full Member

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    Your no quite the full shilling pal
     
  15. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Crankle the cronkle crankle.