Is Juan Manuel Marquez an All-Time Great ?

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  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Brandish Active Member Full Member

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    ive been on this site since 2005, and NSB and i have never been banned on either one/
     
  3. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    *******s will never live down that JMM won their rivalry.

    And won it in style.

    A beautiful 6th round knockout and sent Pac into an alternate dimension with that right hand.
     
  4. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    His only good win is Manny outside of that he barely is a current great how the hell is he an all time great :huh

    Should have lost his fight with MAB

    Casamayor was shot to bits ,

    Juan Diaz really ? Does even elevate his status ?


    And Gainer and katsidis are decent wins at best !
     
  5. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Best thing that ever happened to *******s in this forum is administration getting rid of GIFS.
    That peach of a right hand in GIF form landing on Pacquiao is a site to see. :D
     
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    Ill be honest, people wont like it but personally Im on the fence regarding JMM being an ATG, imo. I really don't see him as a clear cut ATG.
     
  8. DABOZ

    DABOZ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bradley has a better record than Marquez.

    Marquez ducked Amir Khan.
     
  9. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    HOFer but not an ATG
     
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    never seen him resort to name calling...and i'll vouch for nonito smoak as easily one of the best posters on this forum :good
     
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    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Without question.
     
  13. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Funny, Bradley actually admitted he ducked Amir Khan. "If I lose to Khan, I'm out of the Pacquiao sweepstakes".

    A better record? No. Any of Marquez's first 3 fights with Pacquiao have more validity than Bradley's robbery loss, and of course there's the KO. That's a win over a fellow ATG in (or at least near) his prime, one of the most memorable KO's in recent history, one of the best wins in the last few decades.

    Then he has Casamayor, the #1 at lightweight who he was the first to KO, another ATG in Marco Antonio Barrera (who wasn't shot as he was near-prime when Pac beat him and improved on his performance in the rematch, and this showed in the competitiveness of his fight with JMM), a prime Orlando Salido (former Featherweight Champion who beat Guerrero, Lopez X2, and dropped Gamboa in a good fight), and Juan Diaz who had only lost once prior and had advantages in size, speed, and youth.

    Bradley has Kendall Holt, Devon Alexander, Lamon Peterson, Ruslan Provodnikov (razor close). He has a win over JMM himself, but JMM is clearly past it and slower at welterweight and the fight was very competitive ending in a split decision.

    Bradley's record is in no way better.
     
  14. EJDiaZ

    EJDiaZ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    OFC him Pac and FMJ are all time greats no question
     
  15. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No he's 1-1-2 against pacquiao. It's not like it's official that Manny should have won the two fights nor is it official that Marquez should have won.
    Therefore you have to go with the official decision.

    It's another thing when figts like Pacquiao vs Bradley since then a board after the fight looked it over and came to the conclusion that the fight was wrongly decided then you can definitly say that Pac won against Bradley (unoffically)

    So please be real, Marquez lost 2 disputable decisions against Pacquiao and he won one fight clearly.