Is Juan Manuel Marquez an All-Time Great ?

ATG just like P4P are opinions not facts. If you think he is, then he is. Others just may not agree with you.

 

I probably consider him an ATG, but I can see how you might have him at HOF level if you apply stricter criteria to ATG'ness. He is near the line between HOF and ATG I think.

 

What does Tarver beating Jones have to do with the question at hand?

 

Marquez has only lost to the very best of his era. He is a great fighter. He is so close to being an atg, but is he? I'd put him there as he would give anyone in and around his weight in history a fight. He also knocked out an atg unconscious for 4 minutes and everyone thought that that atg was dead. Scared the bejesus out of me.

 

Tarver has a reputation for beating old guys, Marquez doesn't.

 

I have it

Elite
HOF - (think Hatton/Cotto types should get in, but not greats)
Great
ATG
GOAT

 

Antonio Tarver tests positive


http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/i...-tests-positive-banned-substance-june-2-fight

 

So are we talking about age or power pellets? You decide because if you want to go that route, I doubt that you really do. Again, WTF does Tarver and Marquez have in common with Marquez being ranked as an atg?

 

Hatton is not a H.O.F fighter. Cotto is close.