Is Juan Manuel Marquez an All-Time Great ?

Without question.

 

Take Floyd, JMM, Pac and Bradley for example. You can scrutinize these guy's careers by the same criteria and you'll be surprised at the results.

 

He only has Manny Pacquio that keeps his name in any convo ..He is a HOF bug no ATG!

 

Name the PRIME hall of famers Floyd fought and beat::deal



****I'll Wait****

 

i'd just about accept him being a HOF'er. anything else is cloud 9 sort of ****.

the man spent his whole career dodging the best fights for shot fighters, guys made for him (and he still had almighty struggles) or nobodies. the good, fresh guys he did fight, he lost.

his whole career is based on Pac. he knew he had it good when Manny kept fighting him because his style was all wrong for Pac. when did Marquez keep fighting guys that were all wrong for him? hardly ever. and don't say Floyd, we all know he took a pay check for a whooping.

sorry, but Marquez is a fake.

 

Barrera and Casamayor were finished. and guess what... they still gave him hell. think about it.

a handful of good wins doesn't make you an ATG. it just doesn't.

 

Genaro and Marquez Prime? COrrales, Hatton and Castillo sure fire hall of famers

I'll give you credit for your optimism!

 

He's somewhere in the top 100. Pac and Floyd are somewhere in the top 50.

 

Modern great- yes.

All time great- no

50 years from now would he be talked about as one of the greatest of all time (you know, like the word means) like people do with the likes of Muhammed Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson and Henry Armstrong now- no.

ATG is the most overused term on this website.

 

many people felt he won all the pac fights. yes, hes a great. when he fought floyd, he was a lightweight moving up to welterweight. plus, floyd, pathetically didnt make the weight when he had an advantage over him

 

Yes.
He's the best mexican fighter of all time next to Morales, who gets a bye in every poll because of his divinity.