Is Juan Manuel Marquez an ATG

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by DON K, Sep 1, 2011.


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  1. leone25

    leone25 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes he is atg
     
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  2. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    top 200?
     
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  3. Mike Tyson

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    great fighter but I don't think he'll be remembered as a legend
     
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  4. Gonzarelli

    Gonzarelli Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who knows how time will treat him but right now he's already considered a legend and one of the best of his generation.

    If Pac is remembered as a legend, the name JMM will be right there.

    Jmm will always be Norton to Pac's ALI!
     
    Gonzarelli, Sep 1, 2011
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  5. JMP

    JMP Champion Full Member

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    No.
     
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  6. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No.Was he great?Unquestionably.Was he better than princess naseem hamed?Without a mother****ing doubt:yep.
     
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  7. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    He is a perfect example of why people need to understand that not everybody has the same definition of "all-time great". Because he's an excellent fighter with excellent achievements, but if your interpretation, for instance, is defining a number, like top 50, then I would never have him there. If it's top 100, then his position is rationally arguable, imo, but he wouldn't even necessarily be there. You might have a very loose idea of what you consider an all-time great. You might say, if you figure a fighter in the famous fantasy time machine could give a good fight to just about anybody, best for best, with the best of other generations, then he is an ATG. The point is, you guys may be arguing with different definitions in mind-which is pointless and I wish I'd grasped that much earlier, when I joined this forum, because it'd have saved me a lot of time. Time I could've spent satirizing the phenomenon of trolling.
     
    Boxed Ears, Sep 2, 2011
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  8. kalunya5964

    kalunya5964 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He should be! A belt at 140 would seal it even without beating Pac!
     
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  9. ProfessorLex

    ProfessorLex Guest

    :rofl
     
    ProfessorLex, Sep 2, 2011
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  10. ProfessorLex

    ProfessorLex Guest

    Yeah right...

    JMM did not face Oscar...

    JMM did not face Cotto...

    JMM did not face Mosley...

    Imagine JMM facing Margarito? Will he counterpunch him? :lol:

    And OH he is taller than Pacquiao, he has longer arms, has wider shoulders..

    You still put him two levels below Pac?? NAH..i'd say at least three. :good
     
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  11. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yes- level below pac
     
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  12. badr_hari

    badr_hari Member Full Member

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    yes
     
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  13. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Marquez is the ****ing man.
     
    shaunster101, Sep 2, 2011
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  14. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    :rofl

    Is there a better way for a man to spend his leisure time?
     
    shaunster101, Sep 2, 2011
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  15. Kingkazim

    Kingkazim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For those who say no. You guys have no respect for the sport

    JMM is one of the biggest assets in boxing. Heart, determination, superb technical skill and longevity has made him one of the best in our era. He arguably beat Pac twice aswell. And despite being 37 he is still the best lightweight in the world.

    ATG material
     
    Kingkazim, Sep 2, 2011
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