Is Juan Manuel Marquez the only elite fighter in his prime

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  1. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Oh please.

    He wanted a 60/40 split. And that was in Morales' favor.

    I wish your boy was man enough to even take a 50/50.
     
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  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    You mean Barrera who had 14 years pro experience, several wars including two against Morales who many agreed they had both left something in the ring, if you even know what that means, by the time he fought Pac.

    Yeah, Barrera who was on the down side of his career.
     
    IsaL, Jan 21, 2009
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  3. borj

    borj the Pacific Storm Full Member

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    you are.. you are dumb, pac fought sasakul, ledwaba, and marco barrera. those are elite primes. you just take this oppurtunity to rant on pac. obviously you're a sore loser.:deal
     
    borj, Jan 21, 2009
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  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Then you were a dumbass fan if you didn't know who JMM was. Really.
     
    IsaL, Jan 21, 2009
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  5. kadyo

    kadyo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    haha that popular 60-40 again? LOL

    He priced himselt out against pac then priced himself out against eric is a fact and you can present arguments why juan manuel was forced by circumstances. But saying that he was ducked by marco, hamed and eric doesn't hold water.
     
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  6. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    :rofl @ you claiming that Sasakul and Ledwaba were elite fighters at any point in their careers. Having an alphabelt title does not make you elite by any means.

    You are stretching it here.

    Look Pac is a great fighter, and he took a huge risk against Barrera and Marquez, but you have to admit that JMM is the only prime elite fighter he's fought.
     
    IsaL, Jan 21, 2009
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  7. DINAMITA

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    Yeah, the one who got hammered by Junior Jones twice was peak while the one who beat Erik Morales twice was shot. :patsch:patsch:patsch
     
    DINAMITA, Jan 21, 2009
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  8. kadyo

    kadyo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haha !!! Something is wrong with a person's brain when he thinks what other people say is what he thinks they must be saying which maybe different because something is wrong with his brain LMAO.
     
    kadyo, Jan 21, 2009
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  9. borj

    borj the Pacific Storm Full Member

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    so? who has marquez fought, elite and prime anyway?
     
    borj, Jan 21, 2009
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  10. fake_southpaw

    fake_southpaw Cutman Full Member

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    Just how do you define elite, UliUli? Who in Pac's and JMM's lists of opponents do you consider elites? If you don't mind me asking?
     
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  11. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Elite is a world class fighter who has distinguished himself from the rest of the top fighters by proving his dominance over them.

    When Erik Morales lost to Zahir Raheem, it was evident he was no longer elite, and obviously way past his prime.
     
    IsaL, Jan 21, 2009
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  12. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I have never,nor have I seen any JMM fans claim him to be the best fighter in the last 25 years, or top 50 ATG,or even top 100 ATG.

    You see, when you're going to rate PAcquiao over RJJ, PBF, ODLH, Hopkins, WHitaker and Chavez, make sure you know what his accomplishments mean next to the above mentioned.
     
    IsaL, Jan 21, 2009
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  13. borj

    borj the Pacific Storm Full Member

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    just answer the question.. i did not claim pac to be the best out there for the last 25 years, nor i rate him higher on this guys. and this thread doesn't say that. you should've addressed those in the opening post if those people are you're target. what i saw was a sore-loser who's trying to downgrade pac.
     
    borj, Jan 21, 2009
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  14. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Well if you didn't claim those things then get your ass out of this thread because it's obviously not for you.

    You know who those *******s are, and they know who they are.
     
    IsaL, Jan 21, 2009
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  15. borj

    borj the Pacific Storm Full Member

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    address it first then.. you really looked like a *****. now sorry about the nasty thing i said to you in the tambayan thread. i don't do that unless you get in my nerve. but i hold my stand, you're still a sore loser
     
    borj, Jan 21, 2009
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