Is Juan Manuel Marquez the only elite fighter in his prime

At the end of the day that one handed ny almost stopped cotto, was ranked no 1 under hatton in the weight!

 

you don't even know what you are talking. first it is morales. second, pac-morales2 was only 10 months after the first fight. third, barrera was on a streak of wins, including the one with hamed, when pac beat a then 29 years old, peak, p4p4#3 barrera.

common hatton fans, i know you are mad at pac but this doesn't mean that pac's past accomplishments wold be revised now according to your emotional state.

 

LoL. I was just about to say, its only the Hatton fans saying this stuff. But you nailed em!

 

Mate face it they wer past it age doesnt mean **** when you have been in 60 odd wars they wer not at there best and morrales stilled whiped him!

 

Not a hatton fan mate dont really rate him, i just honestly think pac is over rated!

 

i just came to realize how annoying these hatton fans are. yes i understand that they are mad at pac for not agreeing to fight hatton and not bowing to their demands. but making thread after thread bashing pac with the same lines is quite irritating. i sometimes ask how old are these hatton fans?

before, i didn't understand why floyd fans rubbed to the hatton fan's face floyd's victory. now i know the reason.

 

What makes me mad is that there's like 200 threads about this negotiating topic, thats ridiculous. There's a thread that asks if Pac is ducking Hatton, how the hell is he afraid of Hatton when he just fought Oscar? But this is ESB, I can read between the lines and see all the tricks posters try to play.

 

You must be guilty to think I was referring to you when I didn't even quote you. atsch

 

morales was nowhere near the jones that calzaghe fought when pac fought morales. he is the 130 champ and pac was moving up in weight. its not an excuse but is a fact. and how about barrera? don't tell me a p4p #3 fighter during that time is not an elite?

 

Ughh...

 

LoL. Morales wasn't as shot, but he was having some trouble with the weight. But still, you gotta give Pac some credit for those W's!

 

Why mention jones calzaghe i thought this was about pac! must just be me! Barrera had slown down by this time and had been in over 60 fights i didnt say he wasnt elite i sed he wasnt in his prime! read before you ***** off ! morrales was also past his best still elite but not at his prime! if pac met them 2 when they were at there best he wouldnt have seen the final bell!

 

sorry for mentioning calzaghe but i just have to made a reference so you folks could understand. fair enough that you consider them elite but to get back to you on your last argument, pac was nowhere near he is now when he first fought barrera and morales. he was still considered green when he first fought barrera up to the time he first fought morales and met them while moving up in weight.

 

I do agree he is a better fighter now back when he first met morrales i dont think he knew he had 2 hands, but i honestly believe all three fighters at there peak, pac wouldnt beat them!

 

So he didnt prove it against Barrera?