Is Juan Manuel Marquez the only elite fighter in his prime

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  1. glimmerman

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    Saying that can you honestly tell me DLH put up as much of a fight as jones did, at least jones had a pulse
     
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    That wasnt peak barrera you cant tell me barrera hadnt slown down by then, he had been in over 60 fights, i watched barrera and morrales closely growing up, and for pac t beat them is an achievment but i dont think any one will honestly say he beat them at there peak. thats all im saying!
     
  3. puga_ni_nana

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    so would you fancy a younger brawling-style barrera to beat pac in his own game? and pac did beat narrowly a peak jmm during that time too but was awarded a draw due to some scoring mistake by a judge.
     
  4. IsaL

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    You realize that Manny fought Barrera in 2003, after 15 years pro experience and after many wars. Barrear was probably 60% of what he once was when they met.
     
  5. imp4pdabest

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    I know that, Barrera has alot of miles on him for a 34 yr old. But dude is trynna discredit Pac and make it seem as if Pac is nothing
     
  6. imp4pdabest

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    Okay, I get your point. Thats fair
     
  7. puga_ni_nana

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    because pac did not fought as sloppy as joe was when he fought jones that's why you see DLH as this. pac beat oscar to the punch while calzaghe just clowned around jones and payed for it in the first round.

    at least pac fought as an underdog and almost all people are picking oscar before the fight. calzaghe was the favorite knowing that jones is already shot but still joe fought him.
     
  8. IsaL

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    Barrera was always more skilled than Pacquiao, give him his youth and speed back in 2003, and he beat Pacquiao.

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  9. glimmerman

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    I dont know what brawler Barrera you are reffering to barrera was a bloody skillfull boxer he only went toe to toe when he wanted to, barrera would of boxed his ears off! and i honestly think JMM won that fight but thats just my opinion.
     
  10. glimmerman

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    a true boxing fan!!!!


    Thankyou
     
  11. puga_ni_nana

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    can you answer this one uliuli? you are avoiding this question.
     
  12. glimmerman

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    Im a boxing fan mate not a Calzaghe fan. put your claws away. any one with half a brain will tell you DLH should not have been in the ring, freddy roach even sed this, and the last thing he would want to do is discredit his own fighter!
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

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    barrera of the younger days does not rely much on skills but change his style just like pac did now and by the time he fought pac he was the assumed the perfect fighter he was.
     
  14. IsaL

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    Junior Jones had his #. Plain and simple. If you don't understand what it mean in boxing to have someone's # then I can't help you.

    Why did Barrera beat Morales twice??

    How is that relevant. But anyway, I'll play along. I had Morales up against Barrera in the first two fights, and on the third fight, Morales was way past it and was probably half of what he once was. His losses to Raheem, Pac, and Diaz confirm this.
     
  15. glimmerman

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    Styles make fights he had barreras number! can you honestly tell me taylor is a greater boxer than hopkins? on top of that junior jones was a bloody slick boxer! your just missing the point, that is when barrera and pac met barrera was past his best!