Is Keith Thurman the goods?

Thurman vs Guerrero make it I wanna see the ghost get onetimed

 

I still need to see more fights from Keith Thurman since we don't know how he will do if he run up against a fighter that isa ble to take his best shots and dish them out as well. What happens if he runs into a fighter that has a good amount of boxing skills that is able outbox him. Right now Keith Thurman is a fighter that relies on how powers to get an opponents out of there but what happens if he cant? There's also the question about his stamina especially in the later rounds. I take my hat off to him because by all means that was no easy fight against chaves and to be honest we need him to see him more of those types of fights to determine if he is the real deal or not.

 

:think Deliberations are still underway.

Jury Foreman* IB will get back to you.

*which is probably how Miguel Cotto pronounces the name of his 2010 opponent with his thick Boricua accent :yep

 

Based on the Lora and Quintana performances, I thought he was a raw puncher with a fair dig and modicum of skill but nowhere close to a supreme boxer-puncher like some had built him up to be (Lora was my first time seeing him, after having repeatedly missed his series of allegedly show-stealing appearances on PPV undercards for one reason or another).

Lora caught him way too many times, which left a sour taste as far as his defense...and while Lora is mentally quite tough, if Thurman had the power I was hearing about he ought to have gotten rid of him much sooner, especially teeing off as he was for so long with Lora's complete lack of D. Hell, I swear Paulie freaking Malignaggi had Lora stunned a few times. That's career 140lb feather fist Malignaggi, having moved up to welter a decade into his run and dominating a massively bigger and physically stronger guy - sort of gives you an idea of Lora's talent level. Thurman was being talked up like Julian Jackson, so when Lora happily gobbled up his bombs it sent up a few red flags. Then, exhuming and ripping up the corpse of Quintana left me further nonplussed. I had given Quintana a chance at the upset based on his throwback victory over Deandre Latimore earlier in 2012 (and on having been very unimpressed with Thurman versus Lora, as described), and was rooting for him as the underdog but from the opening bell it was clear that Quintana was in no shape to be competing...as he came to realize, by announcing his retirement immediately afterward. In all honesty El Indio had been done since the Berto loss, if not the Williams rematch. The Latimore upset was a fluke, a combination of Quintana dialing back the hands of the clock and enjoying a styles advantage over Latimore, who always had more natural ability than ring IQ. For Thurman to fail to finish him off in the 1st after it became obvious Quintana was a sitting duck, and with the knockdown...and to let him survive to hear not only the next bell ending the round but two more thereafter - it bespoke a severe overrating of his KO artist reputation and his applied skills.

Then came the Zaveck win. I rate Jan very highly, and didn't think it was an especially bad version of him in there on the night - and Thurman beat him comfortably (although the shutout cards were a bit of a joke).

He lost the jab battle in terms of accuracy, and landed at the slightly lower overall percentage - but he doubled Zaveck's amount thrown and landed across the board. Very clearly the better man. Nothing to sneeze at. Zaveck, as I said, is a legit solid world class dude.

...then, just this past weekend he emerges from a fan-pleasing, technically proficient, evenly matched violent chess match with Diego Gabriel Chaves (whom few mainstream fans know, but whom I'd seen on various Argentine cards and recognized as being the real deal and not just another South American with an empty record built up at home) and stopped him with a taste of his own medicine viciously tenderizing his body enough to make him check out - which is roughly as impressive as what he did with Zaveck.

So I'm really split on Thurman. My first couple of times seeing him screamed "hype job!" and the next two really caused me to step back and reassess. If he keeps up the level of competition and remains successful, those chirping about his potential from the beginning will begin to appear less and less delirious.

 

definitely the goods!!!

thank you san diego!!!!

 

Maythesse is with Haymon:hi:

Do you want to see him KTFO?

Didn't think so.

Every since Lampley said Haymon was the most powerful man in boxing,the haters have been on the rampage.

 

yes he is.

 

I think he probably is.

 

Yes and each consecutive fight he's showing something new.
He appears to have versatility and a plan. That coupled with
power and a chin can eventually set him apart from the other
"big punchers" who have nothing to fall back on.

 

he is the goods!! and fun as hell

 

Thurman beats every welterweight in the division, except mayweather right now. There's a reason maidana ducked him b4 and i thing that win will put him probably as the most dangerous welterweight in the division. People also forget he destroyed quintana who had previously came off a upset win over top jr middleweight at the time Deandre Latimore. Thurman showed he is very versatile and adapts to each fight, and thurman along with crawford are my fav prospects.

 

Yup I think he is. Fights like a seasoned fighter. Chaves was an unknown and part of the new wave of Argentine fighters, but he looked like a future, green version of Maidana with some potential himself. Very impressed with Thurman.

 

Please STFU about the Quintana win. The version of Quintana that showed up for Thurman wasn't even 50% of the version that upset Latimore, and even that was a shot Quintana simply turning back the clock for one last huzzah - and Latimore is OK but was never a "top 154lber", so let's just chill with that.

We now have due reason to be excited about Thurman: the Zaveck and Chaves wins.

Before them, it was all pure hype based on nothing. His opposition before Lora was pablum, he looked **** against Lora, and the version of Quintana he beat up in hindsight shouldn't have even been sanctioned and only seemed to have a chance because he showed a spark of life for the first time in years against barely more than average Latimore. Before Zaveck, there was nothing solid on which to base hype of Thurman. Now, with his dominant performances against Thurman and Chaves, that hype does have a reasonable foundation.

 

thurman has the goods to be a solid gatekeeper.