is Kostya Tszyu a top 5 Light/junior welterweight all time?

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  1. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so your not taking into account that he was avoided. Your also not taking into account that fighting that many fights at a weight should not get you in the top ten if you were a better champion at another weight.
     
  2. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am not even talking about tyszu i am talking about what sweet pea was saying, obviously tyyzu had a great run at 140 but why can't sweet pea judge someone more highly from having less wins but against better fighters ?
     
  3. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    Without question
     
  4. southpaw jab

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    Tim Bradley can beat Tszyu. I mean Tszyu is really, really overrated. Any fighter that can move from side to side would have been able to beat this guy. Tszyu got knocked out by Vince Phillips. Canm you imagine what Pretty Boy would have done to him. And there is no way in hell Kostya Tszyu beats J.C. Chavez if they fought.
     
  5. Locke

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    You really don't know that you're talking about do you?
     
  6. southpaw jab

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    I was typing a bit fast in response to what someone else said, I ment if they fought when Chavez was prime...
     
  7. southpaw jab

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    He was an old man when they fought...
     
  8. Locke

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    Fair enough. If you think Floyd can do anything other than win a decision against Tszyu you are crazy. I'd favor Floyd over him 60:40 but elusive backing away fighters are just what the doctor ordered for Kostya Tszyu. If he catches him with a right it could be night night for PBF. I'm not even going to bother with Bradley because Tszyu would brutalize him.
     
  9. southpaw jab

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    I may have went a bit far with Bradley. But, I will only say that regarding a current Bradley, when Tim reaches his prime, my money would still be on him to beat Tszyu. Floyd Mayweather Jr. would have stopped Tszyu. I guarentee you Tszyu wouldn't of caught Floyd going straight back with his chin in the sky the way he did Judah.
     
  10. Locke

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    Floyd doesn't have the power to stop Tszyu. He hasn't stopped much lesser fighters with weaker chins than Tszyu. Tszyu was a master of timing his shots so I wouldn't be surprised if he caught Mayweather and put him to sleep. Still I would favor Floyd 60:40 in this match-up.
     
  11. southpaw jab

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    Floyd stopped Hatton. I see no reason why he would not stop Tszyu.
     
  12. doomeddisciple

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    Without any doubt in the top 5 all time 140lbs fighters. You can rearrange your top 5 at will but he is top 5 in the weight class without doubt.

    This is on tangible in the ring accomplishment.

    Not what he MIGHT have done, what he achieved.
     
  13. Locke

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    Hatton's chin had deteriorated from the constant variation of weight, his lifestyle and taking too many shots to the head in his career. His chin was never as good as Tszyu's even in his best days.
     
  14. thesandman

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    This post proves your out and out bias against Tszyu. You're saying a fighter will improve a certain amount, and would definitely beat Tszyu - some time in the future because he's going to get better.

    Even though you have no idea how much he will improve (if he does at all), whether he will move up weight classes, or get KTFO next time he steps into the ring?????

    Happen to bet a lot of money on Judah did you? The undefeated, untouchable, guaranteed to beat the slow of foot, right hand banger from Russian/Australian that lost to Vince Philips, Zab Judah?
     
  15. southpaw jab

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    Sure did. Judah highly disappointed me. I was very shocked. But, as in team sports, the worse player can even hit the game winning shot on occasion. I notice Tszyu never wanted to step foot in a ring with Judah again. Judah was dominating before he got put to sleep. Judah did get knocked out, however, and I give Kostya Tszyu full credit.