is Kostya Tszyu a top 5 Light/junior welterweight all time?

Bull-****.

In a two round fight he was "dominating"?

A "winning shot on occasion" - Even though Tszyu was CLEARLY winning the round and actually set up that exact combo twice in a row, the second combo turning Judah into a rubber man.

I LOVE how the TDU (Tszyu Discredit Union) always say "Zab was winning the fight!" - He landed ONE smoking upercut which Tszyu took without his legs buckling and then in the final seconds of round one laid a lovely combo on Judah on the ropes that in my opinion was the reason Judah went from stalking in round 1 to on his bike in the second.

Why the hell SHOULD he rematch a guy he KTFO'd in 2 rounds?

 

the whole way JCC conducted himself in that fight was a disgrace... he is the sorest loser ever

im glad tszyu handed him his ass, i dont care if JCC was ancient

 

Look i'm not going to get caught trying to defend Zab Judah. I said that Tszyu knocked Judah the **** out and deserves full credit for it. Judah was winning the fight, both rounds easily, but that is completley irrelavent to the fact. But, beating Zab Judah, no matter what fashion, alone does not make you a top 5 140 pounder of all time. I can name 10 140 pound fighters in history who would have beaten Tszyu.

 

he was an awesome fighter. I don't care where he ranks, he was great for the sport.

 

yeah well who in the short history of 140 ???

 

He never stepped in the ring with Judah again because of Judahs own mouth, with the "there will be no rematch" bull**** he carried on with before the fight.

As Tszyu said afterwards "words are like boomerangs, they always come back to you". Judah acted like an assclown, and Tszyu ****ed him twice because of it.

Judah far from dominated. As the poster above me said, he was gunshy after getting hit at the end of Rd 1, and didn't fight the same in 2. KT threw the same combo twice, so obviously he'd picked up flaw in Judah's technique, and was going to land that punch aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall night. Thing is, he only had to land it once.

 

1. Duilio Loi
2. Eddie Perkins
3. Carlos Hernandez
4. Sandro Lopopolo
5. Takeshi Fuji
6. Nicolino Locche
7. Antonio Cervantes
8. Aaron Pryor
9. Ricky Hatton
10. Manny Pacquiao

All legit 140 pound fighters who would have beaten Kostya Tszyu.

 

You should have seen Tszyu as an amateur!

 

Oh, and how could I forget Wilfred Benitez?

 

I did. I watched him lose to Vernon Forrest twice.

 

Fuji would have got absolutely creamed by Tszyu.

I see no evidence to support Lopopolo or Hernandez beating him either.
Given your trolling tendencies Id be very surprised if you have seen anything significant of any of those 3.

Cant see what Locche offers that is going to take the fight from Kostya..just doesnt have the physically tools or offensive variety that is needed to take Tszyu out of his favoured fighting zone.

He likely takes out Hatton if he were closer to his physical prime and until further notice its a stretch to say Manny beats him..a very big stretch.

Excellent boxrec analysis there mate :roll:

 

You mean he won the 2 round easily by running away until he got KOd. :rofl

 

Didn't have to look at boxrec once. Locche was one of the greatest defensive fighters of all time and would of DOMINATED Kostya Tszyu. I have a couple of fights on VHS of all 3 of the fighters you mentioned. Have seen each one fight at least 15 times. All 10 of those men would have beaten Tszyu. If you wanna say Tszyu would have beaten Hatton in his prime, fine, but you can replace Ricky on that list with anyone from Wilfred Benitez to Pernell Whitaker. I was just naming primary junior welters I could probley name 30 or so fighters who would have beaten Tszyu at 140.

 

There is a difference between running and boxing circles around someone. Zab was doing the latter to Tszyu but, as I have said twice already, that fact is irrelavent and Tszyu deserves full credit for knocking out Zab Judah.

 

No you clicked through boxrec. Thats why you went from Hernandez to Lopopolo to Fuji to Lochee to Cervantes to Pryor.

Nothing random about that list.

Lochee was probably the greatest defensive fighter I have seen on film..but if you have actually seen him like you claim..he still had limitations. Limitations I could see a fighter like Tszyu exploiting at the range he enjoyed fighting at.
He would not be dominated...though it isnt unreasonable to argue he would lose.

If you have really truly seen a decent catalogue of these fighters we shouldnt be even having this conversation..Especially about Fuji and Sandro.