is lennox lewis one of the greats?

Foreman over Moorer would be a good example. Bowe did something to make Golota foul out. He wasn't just standing there. He was firing back hard and hitting Golota. I doubt it was past Golota's bedtime or something so he had to end the fight to get home.

 

:nutI am losing respect for you with each post you put up.
One of Lewis best assets was his ability to stay calm under fire, and not show he was hurt when he infact was.
If you know anything about boxing, then it should be clear for you to see that Lewis was born with and had a fighters mentality. Wlad, as he as admitted himself, even just recently, definitley does not. You only have to look at the manner of their defeats to see this.
Ridiculous mate.

 

Foreman-Moorer is a good example. But I think we would both agree that George wasn't getting the decision if it went to the cards, just as Bowe wasn't getting the decision if Golota didn't foul out.

I disagree about your assertion that Bowe "did something" to make Golota foul out. This isn't like George attempting that right hand much of the night and setting it up.....its getting hit in the nuts!

 

Bowe was getting hit hard and reeling around the ring, but he most certainly was fighting back and landing some big shots of his own. What do you honestly think made Golota foul out? He did it because he was hurt just as he did when he bit Samson pououia, head butted doc Nicholson and caved against Lewis Grant and Tyson. The guy just fell apart when he got hit hard.

 

I am not saying "better" punchers in the sense they were more accurate, knew how to bait and trap an opponents, knew how to pace their punches to not burn out... however, dangerous as ****. If you fight a dozen of these, your odds of getting sparked, no matter how in control of distance and pace, are pretty high.

 

Golota-Bowe both 1 & 2 were epic...its become sort of a myth that it was some type of Vitali-Byrd like domination and Golota just randomly fouled out.

Probably gonna watch those fights later actually now :good

 

Just re watched Holyfield / Lewis 2. Jab, jab, run backward, grab, and fight in flurries. Running out of gas after 8. Even an older Holyfield had quiker hands and was able to keep up. No, cant be 3 or 4.

 

If that's the way you look at it, (and I can see that) I would say no few good fighters really tried to - or knew how to - pressure Lewis properly either.
Tua, washed-up Tyson - they were jokes at sustaining any sort of pressure, and didn't have a chance with short arms and slow feet.
Briggs had some success but was horribly wide open.
Bruno and Mercer had Lewis flustered quite badly.
Lewis was better than Wlad in this regard, but Wlad's better in other regards.

Honestly, I think some of Wlad's opponents, poor as they might be, came to fight and tried their best - and they weren't complete bums, to be fair.

I don't even rate Klitschko but I figure he must be quite good. A bit like Lewis, he dominated weak crop of opposition but did so for long enough to deserve a bit of appreciation. He's not been beating all these top contenders by accident, IMO.

 

Still no comparison to the level of **** out there today. The difference is how Lewis responded to a fighter like Mercer and Briggs and Bruno, then compare that to Sanders and Brewster if you want to give Sanders and Brewster any kind of props for being fighters.

 

Well, if you fight a dozen who can box better but not punch as hard .... or a dozen who have less raw power but are generally better at delivering a KO punch or combinations .... the odds of losing on points or by KO are equally high, surely.

 

I honestly can't say. The guy was a headcase, but he could fight. The Tyson fight he was really injured (broken cheekbone?) and I was surprised he got up after getting hit like that. The Grant fight surprised me as I thought he had the fight if he didn't quit. Lewis just blitzed him and I think he was genuinely afraid of Lennox. Haven't seen the Nicholson fight and haven't watched the Po'uha fight in some time. But he's proven time and again that he has no aversions to breaking the rules. He certainly wasn't hurt when he was destroying Bowe in the 2nd round of fight 2 when he started throwing low and headbutted Bowe.

 

Maybe. Or maybe Sam Peter, Tony Thompson, Ruslan Chagaev aren't that far behind the Briggs and Mercer and Bruno level.

I don't know. Maybe Wlad is somewhere between a Lewis and a Bruno ?
Maybe they're all overrated mooses.

 

Klitshcko is quite good. In fact he has stellar boxing skills. He has very fast hands and concussive power, but all that goes away under certain circumstances. Its like pulling back the curtain on the Wizard of Oz, theres just a small midget under all that firepower. Wlad will have to prove more to me before he can be put alongside Lennox Lewis.

 

I thought Sam Peter still deserved to beat Wlad the first fight with all those knockdowns. Lets see how Wlad responds if Haye can put him in any type of situation where he cant box comfortably from the outside. Lets see Haye test his will and rough him up and see if he can respond like Lewis did against Mercer. Mercer didnt allow Lewis to hold on to him and survive, he made Lewis grind the win out. I dont think Peter did, in fact I thought Peter finished up a lot like Mcall did against Bruno, he conceded to defeat.