is lennox lewis one of the greats?

Fair enough. I respect that, and agree to some extent. I obviously think he's closer to LL than you do at present. If Haye beats him, I'm full of even more ****, because Haye's flakey as hell, in spite of his hype machine .....

Lennox Lewis never proved enough to be put alongside the likes of Larry Holmes, IMO, but most people here seem to do so.

 

The thing is, if Wlad prevents Haye (for example, the current 'hope' ) from giving him that test or putting him in that situation will you give Wlad any credit ?

 

Dont really know how good Haye really is. I think Haye has as much to prove as Wlad does. The fight could give us some insight into both guys. There's not been a proven rugged veteran for some time. Lewis was probably the last

 

Bowe wasnt conceding. Thats what mentally plays on Golota. Golota was hitting him with everything he had and Bowe kept coming. Thats why Golota fouled. Golota was skilled but he was a mental midget.

 

Golota was a mental midget, but your claim does not hold water and can't be validated. Its boxing...fighters fight back.

 

I just watched some of the first fight. Everytime Bowe turns up the heat, Golota fouls. It was his reaction to pressure. Watch it yourself.

 

Golota started fouling the first round of the first fight before there was any heat. Maybe you're right though. Maybe it was a psychological reaction. My bottom line from go is Golota was kicking his ass with or without fouling.

 

One of the surprises of those fights was how Golota was beating Bowe at the jab. Andrew was winning both fights clearly in my opinination.

 

The only reason there was a Lewis-Holyfield 2 is because we witnessed, in Lewis/Holy 1, the most egregious robbery in a major fight of the past quarter century. Holy won two rounds. Three at most.

And in the rematch, Lennox won a clear eight.

H2H at HW, Lennox was much better than Evander.

He beat every man he ever faced. Sure he needed two goes at two of them due to a lack of preparedness, but Joe Louis was sparked in his prime.

Both men came back to make amends.

Lennox had a very good list of scalps by the time he retired.

Vitali, Tua, Grant, Holyfield, Golota, Mavrovic, Akinwande, Mercer, Morrison, Bruno, Tucker, Ruddock and more.

ATG.

 

When I see those fights now it isn't a big deal anymore until its pointed out. But I can remember thinking when these fights happened how he was controlling the fight because of the jab. Much of the time he was doubling up on it completely throwing off Bowe's timing. Outside of the fouls he fought a great fight and showed he should be considered up there with the divisions elite at the time.

 

I reallly don't see how you could think that.

FW maybe, when he's in trolling mood, but not you.
Wlad won 9 rounds to Peter's 3.

Which would have been 117-111.

Rabbit punches or not, the three KDs cost him three points, making the final tally 114-111, a score delivered by all three judges.

In the twelfth, Sam was on ***** street, and ripe for the KO. Wlad, mindful of Stewart's insistent advice, remained cautious as the bout was in the bag.

 

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"what surprises me is how every opponent of Lennox Lewis gets rated as verging on all time greatness and especially Rahman who failed every time he stepped out of fighting Class C fighters."

Which fighters get rated as "verging on all time greatness"?

 

by your own admision Tommy Morrison for one

 

This of course is about a statement you attribute to me but will show no proof of. atsch

Do you have anything or are you just going to disrupt threads?