is lennox lewis overrated?

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  1. Thomas!!

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  2. badassQatari

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    no. he is VERY overrated.

    beating tin cans doesnt mean anything. his era was weak. he may have the strong attributes to become great, but he never had the chance to show it. fading holy beat him (imo:hey). he looked very ordinary against tua, mercer etc.
    the fact that journeymens KOd him in his prime automatically DQs him to the atg list. you cant say those ko losses were flukes, they all happened in his prime!
    your downplaying this. the fact that he didnt beat this guys in their top forms diminished a lot whatever feat he may have earned there. by your line of reasoning leon spinks should therefore be ranked among the greats. hell he beat muhammad ali! and he beat him convinsingly!
    oldies and 2nd tiers. weak list
    sure ali should never be considered great because he retired with his central nervous system ****ed up?:nono

    every greats fought a variety of styles and beat them all. marciano had charles and walcott, two of the most technically modern heavys of his era, ali had frazier, foreman, chuvalo, shavers, and norton, swarmer-punchers of different schools. same case with louis, holmes and tyson. BUT NONE OF THEM LOST TO THE MCCALLS AND RAHMANS OF THEIR TIME IN THEIR PRIME. :deal
    agree:yep
     
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    whats funny girlie? what brand of lipsticks you wear on saturdays?
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    :patsch
    tell me your kidding
     
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    norton would have dominated 90s and 2000s! he was that good.:good
    he beat a fading ali. alis prime was during his exile
    cooper and jones faced a very green ali, ali beat them both tho:hey
     
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  8. Slacker

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    It wasn't like Lewis was dominating him. Bowe was beating Lewis ass in rnd 1 and landed some good shots in rnd 2 and was robbed by the ref....

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K39AbwNl3QU[/ame]
     
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  9. timagen

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    :deal
     
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  10. chitownfightfan

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    Awesome vid:good

    It's clear to see when watching Lewis' 2 KO losses that he was caught cold. This is HW boxing, and when powerful punchers like Rahman and McCall catch a COLD fighter clean, it's lights out for even the strongest chins in boxing.

    Lewis' chin is very underrated, and while I think he is overrated by some of his nuthuggers, I'll say one thing......He definitely top 10 ATG HW by any measure.

    Tyson was 35 when he was KOd by Lewis, and coming off 6 straight annihilations of top contenders(except Francis). Lewis finished Tyson mentally, and it might have been a sad moment for fightfans(Tysons), but discrediting it by calling Tyson shot is useless. He was in great shape and murdering his opposition prior to that fight.

    The ONLY fighters Lewis ducked in his career where Corrie Sanders and Vitali2. Lewis would've been 38 at fightime for the K2 rematch so that's a legit excuse unless you measure that excuse against the like of Vitali 40+, Holmes 50, Foreman 46, McCall 47, Holyfield 49, Barrett 42, the Boz 42, Thompson 40 etc etc etc......who held their own, dominated or are dominating, even at this age.

    Ducking Sanders though was blatant, and Lewis loses a bit of respect from me for that choice.

    But then again, who the hell wants to risk getting KTFO and embarrassed by a halfhearted boxer/farmer/golfer anyway.:deal
     
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    :rofl:lol::rofl:lol::rofl:lol::rofl:lol::rofl:
    boxrec warrior
    :lol:

    they fought in a very competitive era and held their own. fact.
    shavers and norton would KTFO lewis faster than mccall did. both gives holy his fits, and probably beat him. norton has a better chance of dominating 90s than shavers, but both easily disposes lewis. shavers has a punchers chance against holy while norton-holy would have been a very intriguing match.
     
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  12. badassQatari

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    i can feel you dude. he has had enough of it from mccall and rahman:yep
     
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    :lol::lol::lol:

    norton beat a very good ali, arguably twice, you really think lewis who was sub par in skills compared to ali could beat him:patsch
     
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  14. destruction

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    No.

    Deserves his rating as an top 10 ATG.

    Only close wins were Mercer and Vitali.

    He avenged his losses.

    You can only beat who wants to face you in any era and who is available.

    I think his stock will rise further as the years go by, and the old timers over rating the older fighters based on nostalgia die off.
     
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  15. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What hurt Lewis was the two one punch knockouts on His record. I would rank Him as #2 or 3 on my ATG HW list, but like Wladimir, a loss or two will give ammo to fans who don't like them and they will let it go.........
     
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