Is LEWIS' unwillingness to face VITKLIT in a REMATCH part of Vitali's LEGACY...???

But it speaks to the heart of VK. I could name you three fighters that got that very injury and fought on. And another two that fought a couple of fights with a torn one. I think that VK could have finished the fight. And to me that is a bigger part of his so-called Legacy then winning a couple of rounds vs Lewis before losing by TKO.:happy

 

You forgot, Vitali won 4 of 6 rounds officially against Lewis.

He was winning when he lost!

If you're using the Quitali fanboy logic, that means he never really lost.

It doesn't matter if you quit or your face falls apart. As long as you're ahead on points, it's not a real loss.

 

No Lewis bashed his fukking head in. And yes he did quit vs Byrd. Look man I think that if we were all honest about what was going on in that fight with lewis we would admitt that Lewis was starting to really mess VK up in those lost two rounds. It was only a matter of time, Lewis had started to hit him with everything. Uppercuts, hooks rights. You name it Lewis was landing it. And as I said VK gets more credit for winning a couple of rounds before losing by TKO, then the guys that beat Lewis. Explain that one.

 

Like I said, you're not using the Quitali fanboy logic.

Brittley falling all over Lewis late in round 6 from a short right hand means nothing.

Lewis cutting up Brittley's face from legal punches means nothing.

All that matters is being ahead on points when he lost.

Also, it doesn't matter that Mercer arguably beat a PRIME Lewis, or that McCall BEAT a 28 year old Lewis, and Rahman BEAT an undertrained Lewis.

Quitali being ahead on points when he lost, to an undertrained, inactive for a year, 37 year old Lewis is more impressive than actually winning the fight.

Oh yeah, and don't forget the fun facts like "Vitali was so good at winning rounds and was never dropped!"

Too bad he wasn't all that good at winning meaningful FIGHTS against other top HWs.

 

My answer is no. If Lewis had never fought Klitschko the first time, or if Vitali had managed to beat him in their actual match, then he'd have a legacy builder to speak of. Not receiving a rematch against a champion in the twilight of his career, who defeated him once before, does not warrant extra points.

 

Vitali for the most part was a tough ****ing guy in the ring, took heavy hitters like Lewis' and Sanders best shots and kept fighting, even though he quit against Bryd in 00 or 01, he earned my respect back with those hard fought fights. Vitali will be most remembered in most peoples eyes, as Wlads mentally tougher brother, who was plauged by injuries that led him into early retirement, history can be changed if he somehow fights Peter and wins, but time will tell wether that happens or not.

 

Thats very easy to say from the comfort of your keyboard. Get in the ring and try and fight with a rotator cuff injury.Its no joke.

 

objectively speaking, it is

Everyone wanted that rematch. The Lewis fans, the Vitali fans, and even the boxing fans who weren't fans of either.

Lewis never took the rematch and though he won the first fight there is still a ? when it comes to these two fighters head 2 head.

With Lewis being the ATG that he is, it is a part of Vitali's legacy


If Vitali had acheived his own great legacy then it would merely be a footnote.

 

Thanks for being so objective.
Now, tell us how you really feel?
Vitali would *****-slap your little ass, even if he did quit against Byrd, and was afraid of Rahman.:nut .

 

I don't think so. I generally don't like these 'what if's' and only weigh in what actually happened. There are some that would argue it is part of his legacy but at the end of the day no one knows what would've happened had they had a rematch.

 

Not all rotator cuff tears are the same. You knew that didn't you? Also, fighting a couple fights with a torn rotator cuff is cool, if you are a damn ******. Obviously it was only a small partial tear, or they would have NEVER been able to do that. I tore my rotator cuff before, and wrestled with it. I can't see any way possible that I could have been boxing with the pain that I was in. Let alone trying to stay step for step with a world class boxer, and keep my timing in order. I would try and take a couple swipes at the punching bag, and I would feel like someone was cutting through my shoulder with a circular saw.

 

Snap. I had a rotator cuff injury and couldnt do bench for 2 YEARS! I rountinely reinjured it because of not letting it heal.And these schmucks talk like a rotator cuff injury is just a bee sting.:roll:

(for the record dont EVER make me have to agree with you again)

 

Vitlay was up 4-2 on all three cards prior to the cuts stoppage.

Lewis ran his mouth, and said he had plans to fight Vitlai, or fight Kirk Johnson Lewis had 15-18 million on the table for the re-match, but said no thanks. I think he knew he was going to lose the re-match. I think Vitlai retired Lewis.

I think Vitali retiring Lewis is a small portion of Vitali's legacy.

 

I disagree. Look..to anyone who followed boxing they knew that Lewis had nothing to prove..what would a rematch prove? He'd already won the first fight. Add to that he was engaged and he wanted to move on with his personal life which was essentially on hold until his boxing career, following his retirement he got married and had a couple of kids, this was what he wanted to focus on, family. As for the money, if you have all you need, 5 or 10 or even 20M more doesn't necessary mean anything. Having said all of this, he may in fact have not wanted to fight Vitali because he thought he was going to loose, that's also a possibility. But you can't isolate these other factors and assume they had no bearing on his decision, if you want to be objective about the whole issue.

But I wouldn't count this as anything in VK's favour, anymore than I would credit McBride for retiring Tyson.

 

Understood.