Is Loma the most overrated boxer of this generation?

First I'd like to state that overrated doesn't mean that Loma is a bad fighter. Right now he's obviously at least top 3 talent wise and arguably the best. That being said, I've never seen a fan base trying to push an agenda and overrate a fighters wins like this throughout the internet. There are countless amounts of people who would favor him over PBF, Duran, Pacquiao, and other greats. If you made a poll on this forum, most likely Loma would come out ahead. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Loma can't beat any of these guys, but nothing he's done on his resume indicates he can.

Let's break down each fight of his and give him a rating for the quality of opposition.

Jose Ramirez-A very good fight to debut. No, Jose Ramirez is not an elite talent, but you don't see generally see debut fighters in with an experienced boxer with a winning record. 2/10

Orlando Salido-Loma ended up losing a close by clear decision against the more experienced Salido. Obviously a very dangerous second fight to take. That being said, people are overrating wins based on how many fights he's taken. The quality of opposition doesn't increase because of your age or how many fights you've been in. This is one of the biggest flawed argument Loma fans constantly bring up. We also can't forget that Salido has double digit losses. Since he lost this fight, I'm not going to give it a rating.

Gary Russell Jr-Gary Russell had not fought ANYONE prior to fighting Loma. That being said, I do rate this win highly. Gary Russell is clearly a very good talent. Excellent win. 7.5/10

Suriya Tahkun-To be honest I don't know much about this guy. I checked his boxrec and it was all Thai fighters. But for a 4th fight, I'm not going to criticize. Especially after coming off fighting GRJ. 3/10

Gamalier Rodriguez/Romulo Koasicha-Similar to Tahkun, I don't really have opinions on these fights. Pretty sure fighters weren't trying to get in there with Loma anyways, so I'm not going to criticize. At the same time I'm not going to boost his resume. 3/10

Roman Martinez-Martinez was a solid guy who had been stopped by Mikey and been through 2 brutal wars prior to fighting Loma. He was obviously damaged goods, but at the same time never elite. Loma would have always beat him. 6/10

Nicholas Walters-This is one of Loma's most overrated wins. Walters claim to fame was being shot to **** career flyweights in Nonito and Darchinyan. When he moved up to 130 his power CLEARLY did not translate. He clearly beat Sosa and got robbed, but his true level was exposed against a very crude opponent. Walters is a level above Martinez but definitely not anything special. We also have to take in count that he was getting blackballed and was inactive for a year. 6.5/10. I would have gave it a 7/10 rating if Walters had been active.

Jason Sosa-A Martinez level guy. Very crude but heavy handed. We have to note that a shot to pieces Gamboa even ended up beating him. That being said he does have a win over Fortuna. Even though he was losing on the cards and was obviously getting outmatched he deserves credit. 6.5/10

Miguel Marriaga-Marriaga was moving up in weight and has had no wins of note. This fight was pretty much pointless. Again, I don't blame Loma for fighting him since he was coming off fighting Walters, Sosa and Martinez. But I'm not going to try and credit the guy for beating him. 5/10.

Guillermo Rigondeaux-No credit at all. Rigo was an inactive 38 year old who was jumping up 2 weight classes. I see a lot of morons bringing up how Loma jumped up 2 weight classes. Loma did not go from 126-135 straight away. Loma also won his gold medals at LW. Rigo won it a bantam. Let's not forget that he was tiny at 122 to begin with. I don't care if you think Rigo "ducked him" at 126, etc. He doesn't get extra bonus credit. You have to credit fighters for what they have actually accomplished. Not some hypothetical or your biased opinion. For example I don't credit Mayweather for beating a prime Pac, even though I'm certain he would've won. It's just the most flawed and idiotic logic. I see a lot of people constantly doing this for Loma. 3/10

Jorge Linares-I give Loma a ton of credit for moving up to 135 and his first fight being Linares. Prior to Loma fighting Linares, Linares was actually quite underrated. Now that Loma has fought him, you'd think that Linares was SRL or Tommy Hearns. Although this is a fantastic win, let's break down what Linares really is. Linares career took a big downfall after being handed 2 back to back stoppage losses. He did a great job rebuilding himself. His re-emergence came in 2014 when he fought Arakawa. Arakawa was coming off an absolute war with Omar Figgy and Linares ended up toying with the man with ease. He then ended up racking up some solid wins in Mitchell, Crolla, and Campbell. These wins were solid not elite wins. Linares only dominated in Crolla 2. Against Mitchell he was losing on the cards and Campbell beat him with ease in the second half of the fight. That was the first time I saw major limitations to Linares' game. Now Campbell is an underrated fighter but at the same time, Linares has just been matched well.

However all that being said, Loma moving up to 135 and taking on Linares was impressive and a very good win. 7.5-8/10.

Conclusion: Loma is a very special talent. That being said, I've never seen someone overrated to this extent based off what they have accomplished in the pro ranks. Styles make fights. We already saw Loma struggle against a Salido and Linares style, he just hasn't been fighting elite talent with bad match up styles.

 

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Sure, maybe I'm overrating him. But I'm not overrating him to the extent that I've seen a huge portion of posters/youtube commentators. I've never seen someone get this overrated. I've overrated fighters all the time, I'm not bashing people for overrating. I'm just pointing out that Loma is by far the most overrated fighter since I've watched boxing in the early 2000's.

 

It's either GGG or Loma for me. As overrated as Pacquaio gets, the man moved up countless divisions and fought real elite opposition. So I can't put him above GGG or Loma. Broner was overrated but I don't think it was to the extent of GGG or Loma.

 

What bothers me the most is how Loma fans will try to give extra bonus points for stuff that Loma has not achieved. They will credit him for beating Rigo and their logic is based off them believing Rigo ducked him at 126. It doesn't matter if you perceive that someone ducked or if it was actually a factual duck. You get credit for what you actually faced!

 

I hate white fighters? That's why I rooted for Allen to beat Yoka? That's why I rooted for Smith over Hopkins and Barrera? That's why I hype up Plant and Trey Lippe? What white American fighter do I hate on? Please list them. Why would I create a thread on Crawford/Spence, when almost the whole forum would pick SRL or Duran over them. They're not overrated even close to the extent that Loma is.

 

Including me? I picked Loma to beat Walters FAR before the fight was made LMAO. Nice try! Check my post history clown.

 

Obviously I'm stating my opinion. I'm also curious on if people agree or not.