Is Loma the most overrated boxer of this generation?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ellerbe, Jul 13, 2018.


Do you agree with this thread?

  1. Yes. I'm reasonable and unbiased.

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  2. No I'm a Loma fan! How dare you criticize him.

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  3. **** off Ellerbe

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    See this is the overrating I'm talking about. Now it's not Loma's fault but we can't give his resume a boost because boxer's ducked him. Rigo was a PAD fight. An inactive nearly 40 year old who jumped up 2 weight classes. 0 credit for that win. Marriaga was a PAD fight.
     
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  2. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Triggered? Nickel please. Again I don’t care and even clearly stated you were not pi :pipi on the kid Loma. How did you miss that part E man? Clearly your eyes are not wide open enough this morning so grab some coffee and review my post againo_O
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  3. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you think Rigo and Marriaga are PAD fights you don’t know what a pad fight is.
     
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  4. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Ok this forum.. Give me YOUR analysis & breakdown of how this forum is making VL the 'MOFOAT' over all other fighter's?! Define first what that is & then give me the stats, numbers averages, your rationale, criteria used & why your opinion is & more valid than people who disagree with you?? Your lone opinion doesn't cut it, everyone has differing experiences posting & we all have personal bias.. You need to demonstrate, set out & show why & how this forum is pushing a more hyperbolic narrative for Loma over all others???

    & don't tell me to answer a question when you haven't even dealt with numerous questions I posed you here! You made the thread yet you're being selective in which points you want to deal with.. Even the post you just quoted opened with a question which you ignored. Try following a linear discussion instead of being evasive in future as it's not a good luck!
     
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  5. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Well you can always provide names of the guys who accomplished the same within their first 10-18 fights as a pro
    I just think the kid is on a roll
     
    Bustajay, Jul 15, 2018
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  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're clearly triggered by this thread and my opinion on the matter. Like I said, there are countless other threads I've made similar to this. But you didn't come in here acting like this. You're emotionally invested in Loma. It's fine.
     
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  7. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    I think his mind is made up so this is clearly based on opinions of over hyping and the total dismissal of facts and accomplishments
     
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  8. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Kid? He's 30+ lmao. He started late and sure that's impressive. But you have to take in count his age and experience. Also do you understand what I mean by overrated now? You proved my point exactly. My biggest gripe with Loma fans is that they love to boost his resume based off things he hasn't done.
     
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  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Marriaga coming off a loss and moving up in weight is not a pad fight? Rigo being inactive and nearly 40 and moving up 2 weight classes is not a pad fight? Now if I said mediocre Sosa and Martinez were pad fights that's one thing. Martinez had a belt and Sosa was coming off solid wins in HIS own weight class. Don't think anything I said was unreasonably. Herrera was a better fight than Rigo and Marriaga. Obviously Rigo a way better talent but you can't jump 2 weight classes like that.
     
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  10. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    I’m calling my Therapist right now!!!!! FK YOU
    I FKN HATE YOU:fusmile


    Sure
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  11. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Answer my question first and we'll go from there.
     
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  12. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    I was not big on him dragging Rigo up but still it’s a solid name on the resume and I sure didn’t expect him to beat him the way he did at all bro
    Anyways HYPE or Legit the kid (once you are my age you can call others kid too) is impressive
     
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  13. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Only reason I'm asking you this question is I want to know if you have the ability to concede a point. Or this is useless to debate. You've clowned the fact that I've based my opinion on yt comments/boxing forums. So I want to know if you have a good argument or if you'll concede the point. For example I conceded the fact that I went overboard by saying he's the most overrated boxer of all time. I haven't watched boxing for 100s of years. I've watched it for 15-20 years.
     
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  14. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's the thing busta. When did I say he's not impressive? I feel like you called me triggered because you thought I was being unreasonable and you were annoyed by the fact that you thought I was shitting on Loma. Throughout my thread do you think I was unfair?

    I actually thought he'd stop Rigo in the 1st. Weight difference was too big.
     
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  15. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Well prove to me he's the one who's getting overrated the most on those platforms then? How u gunna do that Shirley? You saying it doesn't necessarily make it true does it? Have you researched every single fighter ever, acutely analyzed there fan base narrative, decided that it is the most hyperbolic (& even then that's just your own personal opinion) & then checked your opinion that he is matches with the majority of boxing fans past & present (which is impossible lol).. Well, have u? Define his fan base too... How do you know what people in Ukraine & Eastern Europe are saying about him? You can't speak Russian can you?! You haven't a ****ing clue about his fan base in truth have you?! Just selective drivvle to push a BS narrative...All I've had so far is your opinion....

    :lol:
     
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