Is Loma the most overrated boxer of this generation?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ellerbe, Jul 13, 2018.


Do you agree with this thread?

  1. Yes. I'm reasonable and unbiased.

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  2. No I'm a Loma fan! How dare you criticize him.

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  3. **** off Ellerbe

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's a reach trying to play it off like it was that bad of a robbery lmao.
     
  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    In my opinion I believe it. Based off the amount of posts on this forum, youtube, etc, on Loma. By the way, I meant to say my generation not of all time.
     
  3. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    For me, Loma's credentials and resume is not overrated at all, especially considering that he's been so dominant. What's overrated is his h2h ability from lightweight up. And also in historical matchups.
     
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  4. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Thats a fair statement.

    I dont fully agree but there is truth to it really going overboard via how he is rated H2H as that has gotten a bit much at this stage of the game.
     
  5. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Loma is a once in a lifetime talent, however I will agree with you that Lomachenkos resume is overrated at times as difficult as it is for me to admit (still the best resume around), I am a massive fan of his HOWEVER you can't name a boxer who faced better opposition who are currently active, other than maybe Canelo and Pacman but Cownelo lost some of his high profile fights (GGG and Lara), you have guys like Crawford who beat dead bodies all their career and are hailed as p4p number 1 because they weight bullied other fighters and struggled against B- level fighters like Gamboa. You have guys like Spence whose best win is a guy comparable to Sosa on Lomachenkos resume (Brook is much better than Sosa but considering the circumstances, having to drop so much weight), Mikey Garcia who beat nobody as well, his best win is probably Adrien Broner lmao.
    Lomachenko has the best resume in boxing currently and bringing up the Salido loss is dumb, the man literally hit Loma with over 80 low blows which is an all time record, Lomachenko was fresh to the pro ranks and never experience such dirty boxing, if prime Salido was to face Loma now, Vasyl would destroy him.

    Gary Russel Jr is a special talent and will make his name known, he KOed Crawford after all ;) He is talent wise top 5 p4p
    Linares is a fighter who is underrated by most, with the right mindset and approach he is one of the very best boxers around, his performance vs Loma was inspiring.
    Rigondeaux who Lomachenko absolutely destroyed, toyed with him and forced him to quit, before the fight it was 60-40 in favor of Loma in all the polls, idk if you said it but a lot of people said Rigo would break his jaw and toy with him.... how did that work out?
    Walters I agree is a lil overrated as far as Lomas wins are concerned, he beat already overrated Donaire who was on his way down at that point. Still a very good win and better than anything Crawford has on his resume imo
    Sosa is a very good win as well, the man just got robbed against a guy Crawford struggled with (Gamboa)

    Maybe his resume is overrated looking at all time greats but he still has the best resume among current active boxers other than Pacman.
     
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  6. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You need stats & facts to back this up.. That is how an argument is formed.

    -What is 'the agenda'?

    -Define 'overrating'?

    -What are they saying so ridiculously over the top about his wins?


    You are generalizing too much..
     
  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    One thing: Mayweather was 38 years old when he beat pfp 2 Pacquiao in his own weightclass. That doesn’t compare to pushing Rigo up two weights while many years his junior.
     
  8. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what was the point in the poll? you've basically asked "am i right or are you mad?"
     
  9. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    He's just butthurt that a non-black guy is currently popping. He did the same with Kovalev, GGG, Pac etc. Same story every time.
     
  10. guncho

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  11. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Opinions are like arsh-holes though! &
    no you didn't, you just bottled it on the 'all time' bit..

    So who are you comparing him too in the context of this debate & what has the 'amount' of posts got to do with him being 'TMOFOAT' though? What is this 'amount'?

    & who is so stupid to think that an entire fanbase speaks with one singular voice? LOL Generalizing is lazy & ignorant..

    'Youtube'? LOL Are you really admitting to measuring things with YT comments & videos?! :lol:

    Come on be real, I don't see any serious non trolling adult (don't cite his promoter, that's his job lol) saying he's TBE & nor do I see any 'hype' that I haven't seen before. You're just trying to portray otherwise because you're threatened.
     
  12. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No he isn’t , that title belongs to GGG.
     
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  13. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Crawford is way more overrated.

    3 division champion, starts camp at 180, best win to date is over a t rex armed dwarf coming off a long lay off.

    Crawford as Loma is are both excellent fighters only Lomachenko jumped in at the deep end as opposed to Crawford who waited until 20 plus fights in to fight a live body.

    Plus Crawford being compared to SRL coming off beating Horn who was lauded as a bum off anti Pac fans only to suddenly become a good victory now Bud has beaten him.

    What you are complaining about is a part of boxing, fans, hype etc. You do the exact same thing in regards to Crawford.

    As for comparing resumes go see the posts @CST80 and @Serge have done....great....great work.
     
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  14. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    How many time did you choose some one to beat him and how many times did he actually lose
     
  15. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Crawford is.

    He's listed in most people's top 3 P4P and has dominated **** poor opposition.
     
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