is Lomachenko Overrated?

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  1. The Ogdoad

    The Ogdoad Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    So few fights? His loss to Salido was his 8th post amateur fight. That's been whitewashed away for promotional purposes. He had seven fights under pro rules, that he was paid for prior to Salido. That being said, he is a top level talent. He is slightly over rated in that he doesn't have the resume to match his talent. Linares is his best win. He left 130 without having faced the three or four best guys there. He left featherweight having only beaten one of the top five guys at the weight class.
     
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  2. Serge

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    Let's revisit some of those Loma vs Rigo predictions. Take note of some of the animus some of these clowns have for Loma and the ignorance they spew



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  3. Serge

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    Gary Russell Jr: Despite fighting Lomachenko in June 2014 and losing a majority decision to him in Lomachenko’s third pro fight, Russell doesn’t think the man who beat him can beat Rigondeaux. “He fought a watered-down version of Gary Russell,” Russell told ********. “The physical state that I was in, I didn't feel as though I was able to shadowbox for 12 rounds and for Vasyl Lomachenko to not be able to stop that fight and for it to still be a [majority] decision fight speaks volumes ... I honestly feel as though Rigondeaux will win the fight.”

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  7. Serge

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    Troy King lol

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  8. Serge

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    This is just one video of god knows how many similar ones and they are just some of the comments from it


    'The ducking has began.

    exactly ... rigo its a diferent level ... dont get me wrong loma is a top dog ... but how can u beat someone u cant touch

    Ukrainian Duck Sauce

    Loma should stop talking and start fighting... Rigondeaux.

    Come on Loma make the fight happen. Quit BS-ing. I dont wanna hear no arguments about the past negotiations. The man said hed meet your terms, so lets get this fight on. We gotta see whos the greatest goldbmedalist ever.

    Loma scared to fight Rigo point blank period he knows Rigo will expose him and possibly end his career after he losses cant believe people calling Loma P4P what a joke who has he fought?? he doesnt even have enough fights under his belt and he lost to a cab driver name Salido long story short this man is scared to step up into competition

    then get it done then smh the dude is clearly ducking lol Rigo is even willing to come up to 130 and these Loma fans are still defending this guy

    If you would destroy him, why are you fighting Marriaga? Yep, he is officially ducking now. "Quack quack, let's get out of here uncle Bob!" This dude is straight scared and his fans will try to protect him to the end and I know why, 2 losses before 15 fights detracts all that great talk! Mikey Garcia would KO this little dude, excuses excuses!

    Lomacherryenko blatantly ducking Rigo


    Lomachenko is a great fighter! He is not better than Rigondeaux though! The Jackal is probably the best p4p in the world. He is a machine! Any of us that have boxed, watched boxing extensively, or been around boxers in general, understand how dominant and talented Rigo is.

    Rigo by destruction

    What happened to "wanting to fight the best"?!?! Riiiiiigggghhht...

    i think arum is the one ducking the fight

    IT AINT 50 50 . Rigo makes you pay for comming forward. Lomo's tricks wouldnt work with someone as experienced as Rigo. Lomo knows Rigo would make him look veery bad and that alone evenin a win is bad for business.

    honestly I think rigo would beat lomo. he pursue the fight and his promotional team roc nation isn't offering lomo anything. you always pay for what you. want. everyone screams boxing is a business so in business or life in life in general if you want to aquire something you have to pay, buy it . so if roc nation can't afford to pay lomachenco and promote the fight then case closed. which makes lomo right, he doesn't need rigo.

    This all boils down to Bob Arum being afraid that Rigo is gonna destroy another one of his rising starts like he did to Donaire! Donaire was coming off 4 KO win streak and after Rigo beat his a$$ he hasn't been the same! All this "I don't need him" is simply what Bob Arum is putting in Lomachenkos head so that he doesn't push TopRank to get him a fight that could potentially ruin his career!

    When a fighter says "I don't need him" it means its too risky of a fight to take. The fans will need to start demanding the fight and the media will have to start asking the tough questions.


    It's only a few great fighters out there and this guy ain't one of them.

    like I said before loma don't believe he can beat him. that fight is a 80/20 fight, 80 favoring rigo. P.s. what you loma fans got to say now.

    he's going to make every excuse to fight scrubs and not prove he's PFP! We know what happen to the last European who thought like that. #Ward #ManDown


    Loma isn't Hi-tech anymore he's Sus-pect. What a coward. There is a lot of money in this fight. Loma doesn't want to test his skills against the best.

    tired of this BS Lomachenko has some skills but not enough to really go against Rigondeaux

    Loma shouldn't get any fights till he fight Rigo

    The reality is Loma cant afford another loss

    This was a 50/50 fight until Loma started acting like a ***** which means he has doubts. Edge to Rigo.

    "Run forest run"


    He is a Coward...he speak as if he dont have a loss

    Keep ducking son and fight bums instead so called pvp #1

    Lomo is a duck now. Smh and I liked him. He will fight Tank new champion with now fights under his belt but Rigo is a better fit for his skills.



    Dontae get Royjjr involved loma respects Roy he can make it happen, I want that fight

    THIS MAN HAS NO ITEGRITY !!!! Its clear as day Rigo is Lomachenko aka ****chencko's andre ward i said it in so many videos hes a hoe


    He wants to fight Tank because he thinks he can beat him. He doesn't think or hes not sure if he can beat rigo hence the "He needs me I don't need him" talk.

    rigondeaux chasing his ass and his still running

    Still ducking rigo!!!

    it reminds me of the way canelo acted when people were!pushing him to fight lara or the way ggg acts when they would bring up ward or how mickey garcia use to act when they would bring up gamboa or acting just like nonito acted when they would bring up rigo



    quack quack quack ducking at its best for lomo.

    What a Coward!

    everybody scared of the best rigondeaux nobody wants to get knocked the **** out jajaja rigondeaux #1 baby

    this MF man

    These guys that tell us who they don't need, then say I'd destroy him but then refuse to fight him is some coward ****

    Well if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, then.....



    Can't say that I'm shocked seeing how he won't even rematch salido

    prove it. I still think Arum is in Loma's ear as well. Arum is telling Loma "Look, I've been doing this for years, I know how these things work. You pay me to manage your career trust me, this fight with Rigo isnt good for you. Do I tell you how to box??? no. So allow me to my job and manage you"

    "i don't need Rigodeaux" hmm i'm not sure he really wants the fight...those them code words he gonna move up to 135 before he fight him watch lol. he said the same about Salido despite losing to him he claimed he didn't "need Salido"

    The fear is real

    SHOOK SCARED TO DEATH SCARED TO LOOK. #LOMATHEME

    He don't want that work rigo would embarrass him honestly the man fight people who stands right in front of him he doesn't impress with all the pivoting and moving around people cause they let him do it.......rigo would school em Cuban style

    Just fight Rigo and get him out the way if it's easy work!


    I completely agree dontae that loma is ducking rigo

    Him and his fans CLEARLY dont wanna see that fight. They OBVIOUSLY see rigo as a threat so of course they wont DARE push the fight. So much for fighting the best =/ Loma by far the most PROTECTED boxer in the game right now.

    He knows he can't defeat Rigo! He is another Canelo ( a bit more skillful) but but limited


    Lomachenko is running for his life. He is being called out and he is straight ducking

    Only idiots believe this BS... Because if he really felt like he'd destroy Rigo he would have fought him next!!


    He will not destroy lol he believing his own hype

    You need Marriaga but not a P4P fighter... loma building an awesome resume lmfao you have 10 pro fight & a L but you don't need a top fighter.... loma & his fans are bad for boxing if they keep this up

    Lomachenko, you do need him. All real boxing fans want to see a fight that legitimizes your "greatness". Rigo is easily that for you. Quit wasting your time with easy work for you.

    Duck duck duck. Been running for a while now

    This punching bag needs to chill. Rigo would break a retina bone from this dude.

    Man this is Deja Vu. Only the fighter name is different. I was high on GGG until he started ducking tough fights. Same here. I like Loma and Rigo. Now it seems that he is ducking Rigo. Bout to be done with his ass just like I'm done with GGG.


    lomachickin


    I use to be a fan. but then I found out he's a coward.

    Scared ***** Loma

    C'mon, Loma, glove up vs Rigo! If you beat him y our resume is then cemented. Y U No Fight Jackal?


    DON'T WATCH ANOTHER loma fight unless it's after the actual fight and on you tube. A fighter that no one is willing to watch can't continue to make money!

    Never seen a fighter this scared to fight

    That's sad man. Lomachenko all but saying he don't want no problems! smh..

    lost respect!ducked someone he and his whole camp knows will beat him!if salido beat him rigo dominates him

    Yet didn't he say he wanted to fight the best ?!

    Loma don't want that work!

    If he's going to destroy him... then fight him!! Loma doesn't want to fight Rigo, and it's quite evident. Those are code words, "he needs me", dude has only 10 professional fights. Regardless of his extensive amateur career, well both fighters do. Loma saw what happened to Donaire

    He don't want that work......Lmmfao

    Ducking

    Pay close attention to what they say in these videos

    Who was it that was pushing hard for the fight?

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  9. Serge

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    ''I would not even be surprised if GRJ out jabs the taller Lomachenko and I know that once he gets on the inside he's going to take over.. I truly believe that.''

    ''Even though Lomachenko had a sensational amateur pedigree and knows how to box very well, I will be very surprised if he is able to outbox GRJ.''

    ''But if I had to bet, which I already have, I would say that GRJ is going to outbox and maybe even hurt and stop Lomachenko''

    ''Now believe it or not, since I have been living out here in Las Vegas, I have only bet on 3 fights where I actually walked into a casino and placed a bet: Donaire vs Rigo, Bradley vs Pac I, and Cotto vs Sergio. Fortunately I won all those bets, so this GRJ vs Loma fight will be the 4th bet and hopefully I win some money on this one too.''

    --Dontae

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    Boxing Beats & Rhymes Loma vs Walters Tale of the Tape

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    Two panelists give each marks out of 10 in 15 different categories

    Category 1: Strength & conditioning

    Loma 8/8
    Walters 9/9

    Category 2: Punch arsenal, punch selection and repertoire

    Loma 8/9
    Walters 9/10

    Category 3: Resume

    Loma 7/5
    Walters 10/7

    Category 4: Heart

    Loma 9/7
    Walters 10/9

    Category 5: Punching power

    Loma 7/6
    Walters 10/10

    Category 6: Hand speed

    Loma 10/9
    Walters 9/9

    Category 7: Ring IQ/ring generalship

    Loma 9/10
    Walters 10/10

    Category 8: Chin & Durability

    Loma 8/8
    Walters 9/9

    Category 9: Footwork

    Loma 9/10
    Walters 9/10

    Category 10: Effective aggression

    Loma 8/8
    Walters 10/10

    Category 11: Entertainment value

    Loma 8/7
    Walters 10/10

    Category 12: Body punching

    Loma 9/8
    Walters 8/9

    Category 13: All round boxing skills

    Loma 9/9
    Walters 10/10

    Category 14: Influence/impact on the sport

    Loma 5/4
    Walters 6/6

    Category 15: Defence

    Loma 7/7
    Walters 8/9

    Walters wins 12-1-2 (overall score 272 to 237)

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  10. JacK Rauber

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    No, actually Loma is an inch taller. Mikey is just a bigger guy. Thicker, longer reach, bigger boned. The way Loma beats Mikey is to stay away from any heavy exchanges, get in, get out, score and don't get caught. If he can do this he should score a lopsided decision.
     
  11. rorschach51

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    Must be the hair, Mikey looks taller to me lol. The rest they look the same size imo.
     
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  13. BoxingABC1

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    can you overrate genius?