Is lomanchenko the closest we have to roy jones in terms of skill set?

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  1. ClassicRon

    ClassicRon Member Full Member

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    Considering the hand speed, foot work, boxer-puncher style, and aura. I know they are in different weight classes and from two different eras but just skill set wise, can you make this comparison?
     
  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Loma is more skilled than Roy, but Roy was far more physically gifted.
     
  3. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    agreed.

    Roy is the biggest freak in boxing ever tho
     
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  4. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Not even close. Roy Jones was the opposite of technical. He had amazing speed and strength. He did all kinds of stuff you aren't supposed to get away with and when he slowed down he started getting knocked out left and right because his chin was gone and he had poor fundamentals. Lomachenko is closer to Floyd Mayweather or Juan Manuel Marquez. Roy has more in common with Muhammad Ali or Naseem Hamed.
     
  5. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lots of fighters have come and gone with a better skillset than Roy Jones.

    What made Roy Jones special was his reflexes. Imo the quickest and fastest refelexes in the history of boxing.
    Once his reflexes slowed, Roy Jones became just an average fighter.
     
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  6. PistolPat

    PistolPat Active Member Full Member

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    Nothing alike, Roy could combo you with one hand, he jump in and throw a hook from the outside and avoid the counter with his insane reflex and reaction time.

    Loma is methodically awkward, great positioning allows him to come in and attack whilst eliminating as many options for the opponent as possible, he will also already have planned out an escape route before coming in.
     
  7. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Great points.

    Both are the very best of the best, but just very VERY different.

    Both have made world class fighters look completely average, though.
     
  8. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    He is like RJJ on the basis of being able to do amazing things in the ring that others can't.
    You cant teach RJJ to other boxers, and Lomachenko has that unteachable quality.
    To me, Lomachenko fights more like Willie Pep than anyone else, but there is a strong RJJ element, too.
     
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  9. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed. Roy was a freak of an athlete. Great genetics, wiry, lightning fast, crazy reflexes. Loma is a a great athlete too, but not the god given type like Jones had. Jones we will probably never see anything like him again.
     
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  10. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Basically this.

    Skills: Loma >> RJJ,

    Athletically: RJJ >> Loma (and pretty much everyone else as well)
     
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  11. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jones had real power in either hand although admittedly he was so much bigger and physical,I look at Lomo as amazing gifted gymnastic kinda guy who could of been lost almost anything he put his mind and body too.
    Funny enough they asked Roy if he was able to do that thing that Lomo does where he pulls down on his opponents glove and follows with a punch,had it been anyone other than Jones it would of seemed immodest to answer the question?
     
  12. ModernTalking

    ModernTalking New Member banned Full Member

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    If Loma is anywhere close to Floyd skill set, IV use and health come first is coming up next.
     
  13. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Let me please nip this notion in the bud right now, that because Roy was an athletic freak, he wasn't also skilled. Speed and power can carry you a long way but at the top level it is not enough. Fast twitch muscles and reflexes alone don't enable you to control the center of the ring, throw a great jab and parry the opponent's, throw correct counters, neutralize southpaws, feint as good as anyone, and throw fluid combinations. Just because he dropped his hands doesn't mean he wasn't skilled. You have to know the rules to know when to break them.

    Look at Amir Khan, Yuriorkis Gamboa, Gary Russel Jr., Adrien Broner, on and on. These guys don't have the ring IQ, anticipation, or sheer technical knowledge to apply their athleticism to the fullest and reach the heights that Jones did-despite the fact they used more conventional technique. People who think it's all about speed and power grossly underestimate the technical aspects of the sport.
     
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  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    One of the greatest myths running is that Roy didn't have fundamentals. He breathed boxing for his entire and knew what he was doing. He would've been Jean Pascal if he lacked fundamentals.
     
  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    If you somehow blended Marquez and Calderon, that'd be close-ish to Lomachenko in some kind of loose regard.

    The dude who said Roy is opposite to Lomachenko, more like Naseem and Ali, is spot on.