Is Lucas Matthysse turning into his brother Walter?

MVC! · Aug 29, 2014

MrPR said: ↑

Just like how he himself got destroyed by Herrera

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8-4 Herrera dominated that ass with his feather fist . NOT EVEN CLOSE .

One dimensional slow ass Provodonikov beat Herrera 115/113 and lefted him looking disfigured .

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Garcia on the other hand could not make anything happen against Maestro and lost badly .

LMAOO
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Garcia won, by a very narrow margin, most people know this

Destroyed Khan

Destroyed Matthysse

Destroyed Judah

Destroyed Salka

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Serge · Aug 29, 2014

View Poll Results: Who won?

Danny Garcia 55 15.03%
Mauricio Herrera 311 84.97%
Voters: 366.

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=501723

Bollywooden · Aug 29, 2014

MVC! said: ↑

Garcia beat him on the scorecards very very convincingly. :deal
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114-112 on two cards, "destroyed doe!

Go back to bed.

MVC! · Aug 29, 2014

Bollywooden said: ↑

114-112 on two cards, "destroyed doe!

Go back to bed.
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Should have been far wider than that, those judges can't score fights.

Garcia destroyed his eye socket, knocked him down, beat him convincingly, cracked his chin, made him contemplate retirement

Matthysse is done, DONE!!! :deal

MrPR · Aug 29, 2014

No shame in Losing to Paul Williams , when he was in his Peak . He was an absolute animal to deal with .

His unique massive physique combined with his overwhelming workrate (100 punches a rnd) made him a pain in the ass for any fighter to deal with .

Arguably the best solid chin in boxing until he ran into Martinez .

MrPR · Aug 29, 2014

MVC! said: ↑

Garcia won, by a very narrow margin, most people know this

Destroyed Khan

Destroyed Matthysse

Destroyed Judah

Destroyed Salka

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You are literally the ONLY person on ESB to score that fight for Garcia .

Why is that ?

LMFAOO

No one shares the same opinion that you do .

Don't speak for the people .

You know already know everyone in here , and every other website admits Garcia lost that fight clearly .

Garcia got his very predictable ass kicked by Herrera .

DSG only won 4 rnds , That's pathetic :deal

Garcias chin is cracked severely .

Who the hell gets walked down by Featherfisted Herrera for 36 mins ?.

Who the hell get their face painted with their own blood from pillowfisted Herrera ?

116/112 Maestro

Danny Garcia 28-1 :yep

killerD · Aug 29, 2014

STB said: ↑

Didnt Matthyse seriously consider retirement after that fight?

Just because he wasnt open about it, doesnt mean he wasnt damaged from that fight.
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that was all mental matthyse took that loss very hard.Im not surprised matthyse did more damage to garcia he is the harder puncher.

killerD · Aug 29, 2014

MVC! said: ↑

Garcia won, by a very narrow margin, most people know this

Destroyed Khan

Destroyed Matthysse

Destroyed Judah

Destroyed Salka

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danny garcia lost against Herrera you doofus deal with it.

MVC! · Aug 29, 2014

killerD said: ↑

danny garcia lost against Herrera you doofus deal with it.
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29-0. hi:

CST80 · Aug 29, 2014

IntentionalButt said: ↑

Lucas at 50 will be a better fighter than his brother was at 25.

Walter Matthysse was never considered a dangerous KO machine. He was unknown by most fans before he fought Williams and had fought (let alone knocked out) nobody worth mentioning, and most who follow boxing know to be wary of padded South American records...especially when they are built up entirely at home.

I don't think anybody was shocked when P-Dub blitzed him. It all went to script. P-Dub was already being groomed for stardom, and WDM provided just the sort of pretty-on-paper record while being helplessly doomed to get destroyed to help push the moneymaker along.
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Have you ever heard of embellishing for dramatic effect Lucas is faaar better than Walter but, after one decent beating his chin is starting to show signs its getting shaky, I'm a huge Lucas fan, not a detractor.

CST80 · Aug 29, 2014

Meazy-E said: ↑

Stop using "an" before words that don't start with vowels. It makes your post nearly unreadable cause it's annoying.

Anyhow, I always like Matthysse he was fun to watch and fairly skilled. But I think people overlooked his flaws. The guy had a tendency of throwing wide and could get quite sloppy. It's unfortunate, but it is important to consider the fact that he may not have been as great as he was hyped to be to begin with. Not to take anything away for Danny. He fought him when people said he wouldn't.
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I rewrote that sentence a couple of times, reworking leaving some words out, putting in new ones, the "ans" were a remnant of my original sentence and miss them when changing it.

Odins beard · Aug 29, 2014

Paul Williams another fighter who sent Floyd Joy into early retirement.

Odins beard · Aug 29, 2014

MVC! said: ↑

29-0. hi:
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You are truly the worst poster/troll by far on this forum.

Total ******.

killerD · Aug 29, 2014

CST80 said: ↑

Walter Matthysse went 25-0 with 24 KO's and was considered a dangerous KO machine, until he came up against the at the time iron jawed Paul Williams, Williams walked through everything Walter threw eventually wearing down and pummeling Walter into submission, to score a 10th round TKO, it seemed like a little hiccup because in his next fight he scored a quick 2nd round TKO of another Argentine journeyman. So back to the big leagues and the moment he stepped back up Cintron KO'd him, then Lujan KO'd him and Bunema after that, then giving up he went back to Argentina, to feast on more cab drivers but by that point his chin was permanently shattered and even a journeyman Oscar Veliz stopped him, who came into the fight with 15 losses, 5 of which were KO's, ending his career.
Walter fell apart rapidly after the Williams stoppage and never came close to recovering, his chin was entirely shot, and descended quickly into a Juanmaesque decline.

So is Lucas starting to show signs of a decline while less evident similar to his brother? While the Garcia KD was bull**** the damage he took in the match is not, Garcia while not a monster puncher landed flush on Lucas countless times, and the fight while close took quite a bit out of both of their careers. John Molina is a very big puncher and I believed he would be a threat to Lucas, especially since Lucas thought he wouldn't be able to hurt him, and underestimating his power may walk into something big, which is exactly what happened, twice, if Molina had more confidence and hadn't been so shocked by the fact that he had actually dropped Matthysse, I believe could have stopped Lucas after the first KD.
So is it that Lucas didn't take John seriously and walked into something or is his chin been irrevocably dented in his last 2 fights, possibly to never recover like his brother? Or is it just back to back bad luck and he'll get back to being La Machina?
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No matthyse will be fine molina can punch obviously.matthyse showed a lot of heart and toughness to come back and stop molina.he will be a champion soon at 140 he already should have been ibf champ after destroying peterson if wasn't for that bull**** catchweight.

killerD · Aug 29, 2014

MVC! said: ↑

28-1. hi:
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that's better

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