is Luis Ortiz Usyk with power

Ortiz is an old man, hasn't beaten anyone of note. Their styles aren't similar either

 

If you can't see the difference between Usyk and Ortiz you DKSAB. It's like saying saying Broner is Mayweather with power lol.

Sure they are both southpaws, but Usyk has far better movement. Ortiz in contrast is well balance which helps him generate his power but it also means it limits his movement, he might not be a plodder as such but you show him any kind of movement and he'll struggle as the Malik Scott fight showed, he's best when opponents come to him so he can counter he's no good at pressuring like Usyk who great at staying at the edge of range, moving in and out of his opponents range with ease.

Usyk's lead hand is also far better, Ortiz mainly uses his to take away his opponents jab and as a range finder for his left hand, Usyk is far more nuanced with his lead hand, feinting opponents out of position, controlling his opponents lead hand, setting up traps by ingraining set patterns in his opponents lead hand.

Usyk has far better head and upper body movement too as well as faster hands, better chin, better stamina, better work rate. Only think Ortiz does better is power in every other department Usyk is levels above Ortiz and has skills and techniques Ortiz doesn't as well as a ring IQ that far surpasses Ortiz.

Usyk also has more balls than Ortiz. When Usyk was mandatory he forced the fight, refused to step aside or take an interim title fight. Ortiz in contrast when he was AJ's mandatory ran away, cherry picked Wilder which back fired and when later offered a huge payday which was more than 3 times what he made vs Wilder, ducked Joshua.

 

Fair and accurate assessment.

 

Exact same style!?!?!

 

Got to be a contender for post of 2021

 

There is a tree working very hard to provide you with oxygen right now. Go outside, find it and apologize.

Every single word in your idiotic trolling post shows how little you understand about this sport.

 

Usyk's skills on another level, Usyk UD

Joshua probably wins but wouldn't be surprised if Ortiz got the KO

 

Nice trolling, you almost got me. Ortiz have the exact same style with Usyk .... Bro you got no business in a boxing forum, or go visit a doctor for glasses fast.

 

Troll thread surely???

 

Ortiz isn't as mobile as Usyk. yea he's got the power, but he doesn't have the crazy angles that Usyk has, or the punch output. plus he's old... maybe Ortiz in his prime vs Usyk would be a good fight

 

Is this a joke?

 

They're literally nothing alike. Ortiz lumbers forward and follows with his right shoulder forward, he steps in heavy on his right foot when he jabs and he wings the left............Usyk moves in and out at an angle, feints for position, jabs up and down, holds an elite guard up to catch shots, and moves his head while behind his guard kinda like a big Winky Wright.

There's also the speed difference.

 

Would be a good fight if Ortiz was 35 and not 55. Possible a prime Ortiz is better than current Chisora but that's not factoring in Usyk has got to grips with hw and Chisora was a learning process/off night for him. I haven't seen Ortiz hit the heights Usyk did this weekend that's for sure.

 

Is Dave Allen just like Mike Tyson without the power?

Both are orthodox, both stocky, both smaller Heavyweights...



Just throwing that in, if we are all talking absolute cobblers.. I do as well as anybody else, probably a lot better.