Is Manny Pacquiao a top 20 Atg

Yes. For those boxing expert he may not but for the average people yes.

 

I think Arguello and Chavez are greater than pac.

 

the picture looks better, hater! :hi:

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you can do that to almost every record.

 

someone throw Ledwaba into that picture to make Nallege happy


edit. oh **** he's there i just didn't see him

 

he scrapes in as it stands,,
but he leaps in after k/o on mayweathers pretty ass.

 

I'm not disputing that. I'm demostrating that Pac's record is not even CLOSE to being Top 20 ATG..that is ridiculous.

His best win is against JMM and most Philipino Media had Pac the loser, as did most boxing fans...Think about that for a minute.

He lost to two journeymen, lost to a past prime, possibly shot Morales, and besides JMM every fighter he has fought has been a b level fighter or a past prime even shot fighter.

No way top 20, hell, not even top 50.

 

WTF is talking about Floyd?

Pac's resume is nothing of a top 20ATG.

 

Did you conduct a survey of all Philo media outlets to make this rather expensive claim? Source? Pinoy ESB'ers, anyone? Precisely. :hey If BS like this is a case to denigrate one fighter's achievement, it's not difficult to detect some flimsy agenda...

...Aaand, losslessness is overrated. Ask Eg., Mayweather and Jorge Solis/Lucero (pre-Packy). :good

It's claims like this that make most fight fans lol.

 

On his way.

 

Put it this way, Pac's resume isn't even on par with DLH's. If DLH isn't top 50, then sure as hell Pac isn't 50-20.

DLH-

Julio Cesar Chavez
Julio Cesar Chavez
Pernell Whitaker
Hector Camacho
Ike Quartey
Fernando Vargas
Ricardo Mayorga
Shane Mosley
Felix Trinidad
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
John John Molina
Rafael Ruelas
Genaro Hernandez
JJ Leija
Jorge Paez
Arturo Gatti
Javier Castillejo

Pac-

Morales
Morales
Barrera
Barrera
JMM
JMM
Hatton
ODLH
d. Diaz


PLEASE!!!

 

He's not quite there yet beating Cotto/Mosley would help his argument though.

 

JCC-Shot
Whitaker-Way past his beat knocked DLH down manny had him winning that fight
Camacho pasthis prime,he was at his beat in the 80´s
Quartey-hadnt fought in a while,another controversial decision manny had Quartey as the winner
Mosley-Lost twice.
Vargas-Past his best,Tito ruined him
Mayorga-past his best,a B-level fighter at best
Gatti-C-level fighter
Paez-way past it,at his best he was a featherweight
Castillejo-Who? another C level fighter
Hernandez-Good Win
Ruelas -another good Win
Tito-Tito was having weight problems,decided to get on his bike when he was clearly winning the fight,controversial decision.

like you see you can do this to every record.

 

:yep U took the bait my firend!

Morales (shot)
Morales (shot)
MAB (past his prime)
MAB (shot)
JMM (draw)
JMM (contreversial win)
ODLH (shot)
Hatton (good win)

Chavez better win than MAB
Whitaker Better win than the Morales that lost to Zahir Raheem
Mosley I better loss than the Morales that lost to MAB

 

:yep Right, :roll: and what was Barrera??? Chavez had one loss under his belt, was the WBC champ and was p4p fighter.

And what was Morales? Prime?? Morales was coming off a humiliating loss to MAB who was the underdog, and he comfortably beat Pac.

ODLH shot, weight drained and peak in the 90's.

Most philipino media outlets had JMM winning the second fight, also so did the majority of boxing fans.

Pac lost to two journey men. Losing to a prime Mosley is not as bad as losing to two journey men and a shot, past prime a best Morales.

Mayweather ruined Hatton then, and Vargas win is better than a Hatton win.

B level fighter that beat P4P#1 Forrest and gave Mosley a harder fight than Cotto.

Face it dude, Pac is not even top 50.