Is Manny Pacquiao a top 50 All-Time Great

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by The Phenom, Sep 24, 2008.


  1. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    In 2007 ESPN came out with a list of 50 greatest fighters ever. Here it is..before you bashed this list and proclaim your own as better, think of the videos and data available to the guys at ESPN to come up with this list.

    Note that Mab and Erik are already in

    50. Mike Tyson
    49. Erik Morales
    48. Floyd Mayweather Jr.(undefeated)
    47. Bernard Hopkins
    46. Roy Jones Jr.
    45. Carlos Monzon
    44. Pernell Whitaker
    43. Marco Antonio Barrera
    42. Alexis Arguello
    41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
    40. Evander Holyfield
    39. Oscar De La Hoya
    38. Larry Holmes
    37. Thomas Hearns
    36. Eder Jofre
    35. Marvin Hagler
    34. Emile Griffith
    33. Ruben Olivares
    32. Jose Napoles
    31. Billy Conn
    30. Terry McGovern
    29. Sandy Saddler
    28. Jake LaMotta
    27. Ezzard Charles
    26. Joe Frazier
    25. Marcel Cerdan
    24. Julio Cesar Chavez
    23. Jimmy McLarnin
    22. Barney Ross
    21. Tony Canzoneri
    20. George Foreman
    19. Stanley Ketchel
    18. Archie Moore
    17. Mickey Walker
    16. Gene Tunney
    15. Jimmy Wilde
    14. Rocky Marciano (only undefeated heavyweight)
    13. Harry Greb
    12. Sugar Ray Leonard
    11. Joe Gans
    10. Sam Langford
    9. Jack Dempsey
    8. Jack Johnson
    7. Benny Leonard
    6. Roberto Duran
    5. Willie Pep
    4. Joe Louis
    3. Henry Armstrong
    2. Muhammad Ali
    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
     
  2. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    see oscar is #39 and olivares is 33...and it is a panel that rank the boxers...impact and influence of every boxers must be considered
     
  3. SnakeFist7

    SnakeFist7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This list some bull****. Oscar is way too ****ing high. And where the hell is trinidad? They must be judging this by outside ring accomplishes or appeal.
     
  4. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    they take everything into consideration..Oscar was pretty hot b4 Floyd and now Pac beat him. Two years ago Oscar was one of those who fought them all
     
  5. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this list is pretty bad
     
  6. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    napoles higher than hearns, hagler, and monzon? :bart where's Sal Sanchez and Wilfredo Gomez? Whitaker, Holyfield, and Hagler rated way to low on the list and should be top 20. totally disagree there.
     
  7. SAS2

    SAS2 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    not yet. he moved up and beat a second tier lightweight in diaz, and ODLH, who was worn out. to get into the top 50 I thingk u need to dominate your weight class for many years, ala Hagler, or be able to move up one or two weight classes and be highly competitive (Duran here, although he did also dominate the lightweights for 7+ years, but he is a solid top 10).

    pacman arguably lost to JMM twice.
     
  8. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nah...ESPN are going to have an agenda like everyone else...Having Charles that low seems unjustified to me.

    Having Ross, Canzoneri and McLarnin ranked in sucession smells a bit fishy to me..like they were just trawling around on boxrec and clicking on links. Not to say they dont deserve to be ranked highly but it just seems like that part of the list wasnt thought out to long.

    Otherwise not the worst list ive seen but no Harada doesnt sound right.
     
  9. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    yes, he is. a five-weight and 3-time lineal champ having fought from flyweight all up to welter has to be there.
     
  10. Spitfire7

    Spitfire7 Gadfly Full Member

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    He'll be cracking top 25 soon.
     
  11. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    after beating Hatton its a no brainer
     
  12. imp4pdabest

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    No disrespect to the legends, but this list isn't all that good.
     
  13. The Phenom

    The Phenom Pretty Handsome Full Member

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    This is getting fairly unanimous.
     
  14. Breakdown

    Breakdown Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He should be. I cant believe 68 people already voted as no...
     
  15. Breakdown

    Breakdown Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LoL what the hell are you on.. you cant be serious.. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    Pac > Mayweather. Look at their resume.