Is Manny Pacquiao a top 50 All-Time Great

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Roberto Duran
5. Ezzard Charles
6. Benny Leonard
7. Archie Moore
8. Willie Pep
9. Harry Greb
10. Joe Louis
11. Joe Gans
12. Sam Langford
13. Jimmy Wilde
14. Gene Tunney
15. Charley Burley
16. Billy Conn
17. Jack Johnson
18. Edre Jofre
19. Sugar Ray Leonard
20. Barney Ross/Kid Gavilan (Tie)
21. Marvellous Marvin Hagler
22. Jack Dempsey
23. Pernell Whitaker
24. Stanley Ketchell
25. Julio Cesar Chavez
26. Tony Canzoneri
27. Rocky Marciano
28. Carlos Monzon
29. Sandy Saddler
30. Michael Spinks
31. Jimmy McLarnin
32. Thomas Hearns
33. Bob Foster
34. George Foreman
35. Mickey Walker
36. Terry McGovern
37. Larry Holmes
38. Roy Jones Jr.
39. Alexis Arguello
40. Joe Frazier
41. Ricardo Lopez
42. Jake LaMotta
43. Salvador Sanchez
44. Floyd Mayweather Junior
45. Marcel Cerdan
46. Emile Griffith
47. Ted Kid Lewis
48. Oscar De La Hoya
49. Khaosai Galaxy
50. Jose Napoles/Aaron Pryor (Tie)


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Alexis Arguello is too low IMO, and not just saying that because I'm a fan of his. So is Sweet Pea, and I'd say Dempsey is too high.

Apart from that, good list :good

I'm one of the few people on here that like Galaxy, but above Napoles??? I now Napoles was inconsistent, but he deserves to be above Galaxy and has done more than enough to not to have to tie with Pryor. As I'm sure you will know Asero, I'm a huge Pryor fan, H2H the best 10 stone fighter of all time but in terms of achievement he only makes my top 80 (about 75 if I remember correctly)

I know you put a lot of emphasis on H2H as well as resume, and that's fair enough, but I think Galaxy is a little too high.

 

If he beats Hatton at 140, who is a beast at this weight, he definitely deserves a top 30 ATG ranking.

 

I've got Pac in the top 30 at this stage. With a win over Hatton he might be placed at about 20. If he goes ont oo long gets KTFO it will harm his resume as it has done to RJJ.

Hypothetically, if he retired after beating Hatton impressively I'd put him at 20. If he were to beat JMM in a 3rd fight convincingly then I'd put him at about 18/17 probably, but if it's another close one I think 20th place would suffice. That's no discredit to Pac at all, being the 20th greatest fighter of all time is some achievement.

 

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1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Roberto Duran
5. Ezzard Charles
6. Benny Leonard
7. Archie Moore
8. Willie Pep
9. Harry Greb
10. Joe Louis
11. Joe Gans
12. Sam Langford
13. Jimmy Wilde
14. Gene Tunney
15. Charley Burley
16. Billy Conn
17. Jack Johnson
18. Edre Jofre
19. Sugar Ray Leonard
20. Barney Ross/Kid Gavilan (Tie)
21. Marvellous Marvin Hagler
22. Jack Dempsey
23. Pernell Whitaker
24. Stanley Ketchell
25. Julio Cesar Chavez
26. Tony Canzoneri
27. Rocky Marciano
28. Carlos Monzon
29. Sandy Saddler
30. Michael Spinks
31. Jimmy McLarnin
32. Thomas Hearns
33. Bob Foster
34. George Foreman
35. Mickey Walker
36. Terry McGovern
37. Larry Holmes
38. Roy Jones Jr.
39. Alexis Arguello
40. Joe Frazier
41. Ricardo Lopez
42. Jake LaMotta
43. Salvador Sanchez
44. Floyd Mayweather Junior
45. Marcel Cerdan
46. Emile Griffith
47. Ted Kid Lewis
48. Oscar De La Hoya
49. Khaosai Galaxy
50. Jose Napoles/Aaron Pryor (Tie)

 

Pac is hovering in there at 50. But he's still active. His greatness as a fighter has not yet settled in the minds of this generation and future generation. I believe he is already there and if he beat Hatton, he will be in top 30.

 

Just under 'till he beats Fatton.

 

but you can always compare...bhop is the best accomplished fighter over 40..
tito an never be top 10 WW of all time. Pac maybe the only fighter to be competitive and won titles across four traditional divisions...

 

He's now in Top 25. :good