Is Manny Pacquiao a top 50 All-Time Great

if the list is made in the Phillipines then pac is the greatest p4p of all time

 

For sure. For the Brits, Hatton is #1 all time great.

 

he won't beat oscar :-(

 

no he's #2 calzaghe is #1

 

no he is not a top 50. Monte Cox wrote an article for ESB on who the top 50 of all time are. I have some disagreements with the list but here is his top 50.


1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Al
3. Harry Greb
4. Henry Armstrong
5. Joe Louis
6. Willie Pep
7. Roberto Duran
8. Benny Leonard
9. Sam Langford
10. Jack Johnson
11. Jack Dempsey
12. Joe Gans
13. Sugar Ray Leonard
14. Gene Tunney
15. Bob Fitzsimmons
16. Jimmy Wilde
17. Ezzard Charles
18. Mickey Walker
19. Archie Moore
20. Stanley Ketchel
21. George Foreman
22. Tony Canzoneri
23. Barney Ross
24. Jimmy McLarnin
25. Julio Cesar Chavez
26. Marcel Cerdan
27. Rocky Marciano
28. Joe Frazier
29. Sandy Saddler
30. Terry McGovern
31. Billy Conn
32. Carlos Monzon
33. Jose Napoles
34. Emile Griffith
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Eder Jofre
37. Thomas Hearns
38. Larry Holmes
39. Ruben Olivares
40. Evander Holyfield
41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
42. Alexis Arguello
43. Pernell Whitaker
44. Roy Jones Jr.
45. Bernard Hopkins
46. Mike Tyson
47. Barbados Joe Walcott
48. George Dixon
49. Mike Spinks
50. Salvador Sanchez

Manny is not better than anyone on this list. he is in the top 65-70 range for me..... he has a lot of work to do to make the top 50.

 

So is Floyd Mayweather better than Sugar Ray Robinson? Robinson won titles in two weight classes whereas Floyd has won titles in 5. And Oscar must be above Floyd as well, considering he's won titles in 6.

There's a lot more to judging ATG status than paper titles. Level of competition is the most important factor, along with skill level and ability of course. Harada holds both edges clearly over Pacquiao IMO.

 

He is in the top 3, yes. When it's all said and done, we'll see where he ranks. As of now, I have Harada clearly ahead of him. Based on accomplishments, he'd be second to Harada, but when taking other factors into account, such as skill level/ability and whatnot, you have a case for a lot of other fighters.

 

it's not my list or my opinion. it's monte cox's he wrote it in an ESB article he did.

 

Spinks could be argued over Mayweather and Pacquiao IMO, unless you're another one who rates titles at different weights (regardless of opposition) over actual level of competition beaten.

 

He's #51 atm

 

I don't want to critisize pacquiao because i have to hand it to him for taking the best fights, but i can't see how anyone has him in their top 50

• He lost a close decsion against a past peak morales
• He beat a shot morales twice
• He beat a Barrera that was not physically ready for the fight as his gym got burnt down and he was only able to do 50 rounds of sparring when he usually does around to 250.
• I personally believe he lost both fights against marquez.

so when i look at it he has done great so far, but for me he needs to achieve more to become a top 50 atg.