duno if uk come under europe opinion2 u but just so you know p4p top 2 boxers are appreciated by any boxing fan regardless of nationality. what is there not to like bout manny
NO in germany nobody knows him, because except klits, arthur and sturm they know 0 boxers. in spain, france, italy I dont know him, because all they care is football. in england they might know him a bit, because of hatton vs pac. only USA and Phillipines he is well known.
He's not that popular in the USA either. My nephews don't know him. He's known to us old dogs who like boxing but the younger crowd, probably other than Filipinos, dont know who he is. They don't know who Mayweather is neither.
thats pretty narrow minded view. americans arnt the only country with boxing fans, im from uk and me and my friends would feel rather stupid to say were boxingsfans without loving what mannys done. patriotism and favoriteism seems to cloud some peoples judgement. this isnt baseball or football where you avidly support one sidev and discredit the other. any1 who steps in the ring and leaves you in awe is popular regardless of background, colour or nationality etc. if you cannot see this as true you arent a boxing fan ur a follower of A boxer period
In the UK it's more a boxing-level thing than a Pac-level thing. In absolute terms, boxing's got a lot of fans in the UK, and I'd guess that at least 95% of those fans know who Pac is, and a large number of them rate him incredibly highly. The trouble is that, in relative terms, boxing isn't that big in the UK; it's pretty small compared with football and, in all honesty, would probably barely scrape into the top ten in terms of sports. The same is probably true for much of Europe. Pac's still King-Sized within boxing, it's just that boxing itself isn't that big. There's too much other **** going on. Yes, a Klit or a Haye can fill an arena once or twice a year, but you have to compare that with football where -- just in Italy, UK and Spain's top divisions alone -- they pack well over a million people into stadiums every weekend, and that's before you count Germany, the Netherlands, Turkey, Czechland etc., and before you start counting the lower leagues. I was trying to point this out to some ******* last year, but they weren't buying it. Pac will probably never be as big as Ali in Europe, simply because boxing's a fraction of the size it used to be.
That's a good point and I think it ties into the story regarding TR pushing to get boxing back into national tv. With how the PPV system is working, no one gets to watch boxing outside of the private networks or those that get licensed deals to air the PPV. It kills boxings awareness, and it is something that the greats of previous generations weren't subjected to.
Yeah, and I do respect TR for heading towards greater exposure. Sometimes, losing in the short run means you win much bigger in the long run, and boxing itself has probably been too concerned with short-term gains for the last twenty years. The money's gone up but the viewer pool's gone down. It's one of the reasons that Bernie Ecclestone's been incredibly smart in the way he handles free-to-air TV and F1. It's better to continually take £X million a year from millions of eyeballs than to have a few boom years but ultimately dwindle your audience.
how is it narrowminded? i'm pretty sure TS means the general public. of course people who should consider themselves boxing fans will more than likely know who he is... but over here in the US the casual sports fan knows who he is for the most part, outside of boxing fans hardly anyone knows who amir khan, haye, or the klitschkos are... or pretty much anyone not named pacquiao, mayweather, DLH and maybe Mosley and BHop. so with that in mind, would you mind answering the question again?