Is Marciano the number 1 h2h Heavyweight?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by BlackCloud, Oct 18, 2020.



Is he or isn't he

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Is that the best you can come up with?Argue your point rather than be insulting or maybe you know its a lost cause
     
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  2. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pattern is dempsey was probably the best !!
     
  3. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    No I am not in agreement with you that Sonny Liston himself is the #1 H2H, perhaps Somebody with all Sonny’s attributes but quicker and more battle hardened than Liston...perhaps a more consistent Tokyo Douglas type champion but one who was good over 15 rounds.
     
  4. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    If he had said Johnson and Louis, would you also suspect a pattern?
     
  5. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    I would find it much more plausible.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    You mean the #1 if we close our eyes and pretend that Louis and Lewis and Clay and Holmes don't exist? Perhaps..
     
  7. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Best at what?
    Avoiding his no.1 challenger?

    Look what Tunney did to him.....now imagine what Ali, Liston, Holmes etc would take from his mystique.


    I sense another thread, asking the same question as this one but with Dempsey.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    A big time Rocky fan could be forgiven making a case for top 5. That's probably not wildly unreasonable. There are realistically a few HW obstacles that he just can't reasonably bypass, though.
     
  9. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    7 years and you've yet to make one valuable contribution.
     
  10. Brockton Rock

    Brockton Rock Member Full Member

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    This is all you do, attack other posters who's views don't match yours. People like you are the problem with this forum, when you joined it definitely coincided with this forum going downhill.

    We went from having respectable and knowledgeable boxing historians and former boxers to creatures like yourself who only take pleasure from taunting and mocking others.

    The great thing about a forum like this is seeing all the different individual opinions, not everyone needs to be scolded just because their views may be different.
     
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  11. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This poster has the following views:
    "liston was too slow"
    "ali hit like a girl"
    "holmes defense suspect not much power"
    "holyfield has no great ability"
    (My favorite) A prime Liston would've lost to a middle aged Marciano sporting a gut (I know you will easily agree with this one)
    When asked if Patterson hit harder than Marciano his response was "No he didn't but hit harder than tyson" putting Tyson below both Patterson and Marciano (inferring Marciano was the hardest puncher of the 3, another laughable opinion only shared by yourself)
    In a Jeffries vs Fury thread: "Jeffries by ko......fury has no endurance"
    In a Louis vs Fury thread: "Louis rather easily but fury will go down swinging"
    "I dont know if sharkey could beat tyson but galento probably would have"

    Very fitting a poster of your caliber would defend someone with these views. You both share the bottom of the barrel.
     
  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dear go, no.

    A great, great fighter, and it is a shame how some disrespect him for suspicious reasons, but there are guys I just can't see him beating.

    I have him three or four in terms of accomplishment.
     
  13. Brockton Rock

    Brockton Rock Member Full Member

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    Who is the better poster out of us you feel?
     
  14. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    Is Beterbiev the no1 H2H heavyweight fighter today?
     
  15. cuchulain

    cuchulain VIP Member Full Member

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    I have him at the # 5 spot all-time, behind Ali, Louis, Lewis and Foreman.

    But that's on overall greatness and achievement, not the mythical 'head-to-head'

    On a h2h basis, I would have those four as well, plus Bowe, Wlad, Vitali, Fury and possibly, Liston, Holmes, Frazier, AJ...maybe Holyfield, Wilder, Povetkin, Dempsey, Johnson, Norton, Tyson, maybe even RJJ.

    He would be lucky to scrape the bottom end of a top ten h2h.
     
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